According to the --help-kde flag on most kde apps I have tried, they should accept a geometry flag of the form wxh+x+y or wxh-x-y. But I find that the x and y are ignored in the first form of this. Is there some way to make it so they are not ignored? Why does it appear to work with the negative values but not with positive values?

I couldn't get my trunk system to honor any of those fields at all... this is probably a broken feature.

bcooksley wrote:I couldn't get my trunk system to honor any of those fields at all... this is probably a broken feature.

Not on any programs? Oh my. In my stock Fedora 12 system, okular for example honors the size requests, and also the positioning requests as long as they are negative.

Other apps do not honor all the requests. If an app is not resizeable, it makes sense that it does not honor the size requests, but one would think it should honor the position requests?

What exactly is *supposed* to happen? I would think that insofar as it is possible for the user to resize or reposition, then he should be able to do so on the command line, overriding all window manager defaults and the like. There are certain features the window manager may have set that makes this impossible; for example, actions on windows when dragged to near the edges, but these seem to only make sense with a tactile physical motion and should be overriden by an eplicit setting on the command line invocation, as also should be saved default values.

Okular (the main program I am concerned about) seems to do this (as long as the positions, as I said, are negative).

This is something that is quite important to me. I would hope that I would not have to write an entire window manager to be able to write a small simple program that would allow me to quickly and dynamically manage multiple patterns of windows in tiled formats, with relations between them. I want to have a cross-document bookmark manager, that enables me to have hypertextual multi-document pdf bookmarks refering to tiled combinations of various documents. I can use wmctrl to move already open documents around, but I also have to open documents frequently in the correct saved configurations (one document, possibly in many configurations), so I need to be able to force the geometry upon opening.

Is this some other way to do this that doesn't rely on this "broken" or at least underspecified feature?

I would hate to rely upon okular working with negative positions and then find it doesnt work in a later version of kde and it was only a fluke that it ever worked.

Please file a bug report aganist KDELibs regarding this, since it should work.

bcooksley wrote:Please file a bug report aganist KDELibs regarding this, since it should work.

I didn't see a spot for "kdelibs", so I put it in general kde.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230663