bcooksley wrote:Has this information on the effects of various applets has been added to the bug report?

Not yet.
I wanted to post my experiments here first.

Please do so, as developers may not be aware of this forum topic.

bcooksley wrote:Please do so, as developers may not be aware of this forum topic.

Yes, I intended to do that anyway. But I wanted to discuss it here first, because I wasn't even sure this is what the OP means.
But I have done now.

And I did further investigate: the behaviour I showed in my picture (panel size between min and max sliders) is also caused by the systray plasmoid. I cannot reproduce this without it. And it just happens if I drag the minimum slider below a certain size.
So the systray plasmoid seems to set its minimum size incorrectly. Maybe it also takes the hidden icons in account?
But I guess this should be filed as a different bug...

wolfi323 wrote:So the systray plasmoid seems to set its minimum size incorrectly. Maybe it also takes the hidden icons in account?

And I found another bug: After removing the systray again, the panel (which is empty now again) still remembers that minimum size, so you can't make it smaller beyond that point with the minimum size slider, although you could right after creating it.
But I'm not sure where to add this. Or should I create yet another bug report?

After playing around with this it seems the panel just remembers the current size as minimum when you add the systray. You can't make it smaller after that with just the minimum slider although you could before you added that systray.

This is difficult. The more I play around with resizing, the more unexpected and buggy behaviour I find. I'm not sure anymore what causes what...

Bug filed: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321993

But I'm not sure anymore if it's a bug in the systemtray plasmoid or the panel itself.

wolfi323 wrote:Bug filed: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321993

But I'm not sure anymore if it's a bug in the systemtray plasmoid or the panel itself.

OK, this seems to be a bug in the panel, since it happens with every other plasmoid as well.

Changed the bug accordingly.

bcooksley wrote:Has this information on the effects of various applets has been added to the bug report?

I also added new screenshots to the bug to document once more the uninvolvedness of the task manager widget.

In fact, the nature of the panel bug(s) has not changed a bit since 2011.

Thanks, hopefully some of that information helps them debug the issue.

I haven't lost hope... yet.

Looking at the #showyourkde section in G+/KDE Community, indeed most people include the task manager inside their panels, so most likely won't see the bug. On the first 'alternative' screenshot where I addressed the problem, that user knew exactly what I meant and just picked the right non-clipped moment for his screenshot. I even found an existing conversation with a link to the bug we are talking about.

wolfi323, looking at your bug and mine it seems there's not much going on. Also, a 4.11 regression that is known since 4.10.80 with the bad commit identified on 06-30 is still not fixed, not even confirmed... Well, I realise there's probably a plethora of other bugs to be fixed...

I will put all my hopes in the ongoing plasma rewrite...

Sorry to disappoint - I've just reproduced the bug in plasma next...

Please report bugs in Plasma Next at bugs.kde.org. I believe they're using a separate category for them.

I did that right before posting here yesterday, and was met with an amazingly quick response:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335107

Rebuilding now to test the fixes - that's 20 packages that received commits since yesterday night -, you gotta love Gentoo's tools:

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