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Plasma does not save session

Mon May 05, 2014 5:32 pm
Hi,
I am using FreeBSD 8.4, and just upgraded my KDE from 4.10.5 to 4.12.4. For unknown reason, every time I login, All customization gone.
Here what I had tried:
- I removed .kde, and it just showed default workspace, but next login, still didn't save my customization.
- I created new user, same effect.
- Session managment already set to restore to previous.
- Every time, I placed a widget into the screen, ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc changed, but next login, any customized gone.
- So, I customized all virtual desktops, and set read only to plasma-desktop-appletsrc. I was expecting, my customized was reset to previous one. But still the customization gone >:(
- If I added a new startup program in system settings, but next login also gone. But old startup was there.
- nepomuk run ok.
- I have read to quit desktop from terminal, and run again (I forgot the command, something using kwinapp), but still the customization gone in the next login. But, restarting desktop from terminal, any shortcut that I placed on the screen, the shortcuts were there when desktop been restart from terminal (but also gone when login!)

any help, please!
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Re: Plasma does not save session

Mon May 05, 2014 8:38 pm
does plasma-desktop-appletsrc change with the login?
If yes, try
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sudo chattr +i ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc

That sets the file immutable.

If it doesn't help, run
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sudo chattr -i ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc
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Re: Plasma does not save session

Mon May 05, 2014 10:47 pm
it doesn't help. I customized, I checked plasma-desktop-appletsrc changed, set read only and immutable, log off and login, the customization gone, but ofcouse file plasma-desktop-appletsrc remain the same as before I logged off (read only and immutable). So, somehow after login, plasma read from somewhere, and then plasma tried to overwrite file plasma-desktop-appletsrc. If it could not overwrite, it was using the unknown plasma-desktop-appletsrc :(
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-r--r-----  1 irfan  irfan  schg 20279 May  6 05:34 plasma-desktop-appletsrc
-r--r-----  1 irfan  irfan  -    21839 May  5 07:42 plasma-desktop-appletsrc.old
-rw-r-----  1 irfan  irfan  -    19983 May  6 05:33 plasma-desktop-appletsrc.old2

note:
plasma-desktop-appletsrc.old2 was file before customization
plasma-desktop-appletsrc was file after customization (with plasma-desktop-appletsrc.old2 was full customization)
log off and login, plasma didn't use plasma-desktop-appletsrc
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Re: Plasma does not save session

Tue May 06, 2014 9:51 am
You mentioned that the Autostart applications were also affected - are applications other than Plasma Desktop also affected by this issue?


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Re: Plasma does not save session

Tue May 06, 2014 10:54 am
Some KDE applications could not be launched from menu (just cursor jumping up, down, then disappear). But I could run then from terminal of wbar. I tried dolpin, and gwenview. Konqueror run fine though. I got q-dbus message from some application, Including transmission-qt and restarted plasma from terminal. Non KDE application runs fine.
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QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
Segmentation fault: 11

Edit About autostart
I could not changed the autostart, it kept getting back to the old autostart (before upgraded) every time I login

Last edited by binyo66 on Tue May 06, 2014 10:58 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Plasma does not save session

Tue May 06, 2014 10:57 am
the qdbus message is "common" (though not ok, but it happens for everybody)
more interesting is the segfault - do you also get a crash dialog?
if not, can you "gdb --args dolphin --nofork" (or whatever process caused that message)?
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Re: Plasma does not save session

Tue May 06, 2014 10:59 am
I didn't see the crash dialog. Transmission-qt just didn't want to lunch. Other applications run fine.
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[irfan@digmes /mnt/drk/draws/Composer]$ gdb --args dolphin --nofork
GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD]
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"...(no debugging symbols found)...
(gdb)


Cursor keep staying after (gdb)
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Re: Plasma does not save session

Tue May 06, 2014 3:07 pm
I could not run filezilla from KDE menu (with different userid), when I run it in terminal
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[irfan@digmes ~/scripts]$ Failed to connect to D-BUS: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
Failed to connect to D-BUS: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.

But It seems filezilla run fine so far
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Re: Plasma does not save session

Wed May 07, 2014 9:33 am
When at the (gdb) prompt you then need to follow with "run" to start Dolphin.

In terms of the D-Bus messages - does running "qdbus" yield anything in particular? (it should give a long list of items, many which will start with org.freedesktop or org.kde).


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Re: Plasma does not save session

Wed May 07, 2014 10:44 am
If I run as myself, dolphin, run fine. But when I tried to run as root, I got error
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[irfan@digmes ~]$ su -m root -c "gdb --args dolphin"
Password:
GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD]
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"...(no debugging symbols found)...
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/local/bin/dolphin
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...[New LWP 100895]
[New Thread 8116041c0 (LWP 100895/initial thread)]
Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-irfan" is owned by uid 1004 instead of uid 0.
dolphin(49065)/kdeui (kdelibs): Session bus not found
To circumvent this problem try the following command (with Linux and bash)
export $(dbus-launch)

Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
[Switching to Thread 8116041c0 (LWP 100895/initial thread)]
0x0000000804e0166c in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7
(gdb)

qdbus shows
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irfan@digmes ~]$ qdbus
:1.1
 org.kde.klauncher
:1.10
 org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver
 org.kde.ksmserver
 org.kde.ksmserver-36959
 org.kde.screensaver
:1.11
 org.kde.KWin
 org.kde.kwin
 org.kde.kwin-36962
 org.kde.kwin.Compositing
 org.kde.kwin.Effects
 org.kde.kwin.Screenshot
 org.kde.kwin.Scripting
:1.127
:1.128
 org.gtk.vfs.Daemon
:1.129
 org.gtk.Private.HalVolumeMonitor
:1.13
 org.freedesktop.Notifications
 org.kde.DeviceNotifications
 org.kde.StatusNotifierHost-36965
 org.kde.plasma-desktop
:1.131
 org.gtk.Private.GPhoto2VolumeMonitor
:1.15
 org.kde.KResourcesManager
 org.kde.krunner
:1.165
 org.kde.kdesu-48655
:1.17
 org.kde.JobViewServer
 org.kde.kuiserver
:1.179
 org.kde.kdesu-49963
:1.183
 org.kde.konqueror-49994
:1.19
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Control
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Control.lock
:1.2
 org.freedesktop.PowerManagement
 org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.Inhibit
 org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement
 org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement.PolicyAgent
 org.kde.StatusNotifierWatcher
 org.kde.kded
 org.kde.keyboard
:1.20
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi
:1.201
:1.219
 org.kde.kdesu-28914
:1.23
 org.kde.NepomukServer
:1.24
 org.kde.NepomukStorage
 org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukontologyloader
 org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukqueryservice
 org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage
 org.kde.nepomukstorage-36991
:1.258
 org.kde.kalarm
:1.26
 org.kde.kmix
:1.260
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_kalarm_resource_1
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Resource.akonadi_kalarm_resource_1
:1.261
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_kalarm_resource_2
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Resource.akonadi_kalarm_resource_2
:1.262
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_kalarm_resource_0
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Resource.akonadi_kalarm_resource_0
:1.263
 org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-36804-1
:1.264
 org.kde.gwenview-36910
:1.28
:1.29
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Janitor
:1.30
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_ical_resource_1
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Resource.akonadi_ical_resource_1
:1.303
 org.gnome.Totem
:1.304
:1.305
:1.306
:1.31
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_contacts_resource_1
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Resource.akonadi_contacts_resource_1
:1.32
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_ical_resource_0
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Resource.akonadi_ical_resource_0
:1.35
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_akonotes_resource_1
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Resource.akonadi_akonotes_resource_1
:1.36
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_maildir_resource_0
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Resource.akonadi_maildir_resource_0
:1.37
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_contacts_resource_0
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Resource.akonadi_contacts_resource_0
:1.370
:1.371
:1.374
:1.38
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_akonotes_resource_0
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Resource.akonadi_akonotes_resource_0
:1.39
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_nepomuk_feeder
 org.kde.akonadi_nepomuk_feeder-37011
:1.40
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_migration_agent
 org.kde.akonadi_migration_agent-37010
:1.41
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_maildispatcher_agent
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.MailDispatcherAgent
 org.kde.akonadi_maildispatcher_agent-37007
:1.43
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_newmailnotifier_agent
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.NewMailNotifierAgent
 org.kde.akonadi_newmailnotifier_agent-37012
:1.45
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_folderarchive_agent
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.FolderArchiveAgent
 org.kde.akonadi_folderarchive_agent-37003
:1.46
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_archivemail_agent
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.ArchiveMailAgent
 org.kde.akonadi_archivemail_agent-37000
:1.48
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_sendlater_agent
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.SendLaterAgent
 org.kde.akonadi_sendlater_agent-37013
:1.5
 org.kde.kglobalaccel
:1.50
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_mailfilter_agent
 org.freedesktop.Akonadi.MailFilterAgent
 org.kde.akonadi_mailfilter_agent-37009
:1.51
 org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-36994-1
:1.53
 org.ktorrent.ktorrent
:1.55
 org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-37032-1
:1.59
 org.kde.Polkit1AuthAgent
:1.63
 org.kde.korgac
:1.65
 org.kde.klipper
:1.69
 org.kde.knotify
:1.71
 org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukfileindexer
 org.kde.nepomukfileindexer-37077
:1.72
 org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukfilewatch
 org.kde.nepomukfilewatch-37079
:1.73
 org.kde.kwalletd
:1.75
 org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-37073-1
:1.76
 org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-37071-1
:1.77
 org.kde.kio_http_cache_cleaner
:1.78
 net.sf.roxterm.term
:1.8
 org.kde.ActivityManager
 org.kde.kactivitymanagerd
:1.81
:1.82
 org.kde.kwalletmanager
:1.84
 org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-37252-1
:1.87
 org.gnome.GConf
:1.89
 org.kde.KSpeech
 org.kde.jovie
 org.kde.kttsd
:1.91
 org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-37861-1
org.freedesktop.DBus
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Re: Plasma does not save session

Wed May 07, 2014 9:40 pm
transmission-qt is not a KApplication and doesn't have the crash dialog signal handler - that's expectable.

you cannot (easily) run (many) KDE applications as root, use "kdesu" instead, it will set required environment variables (like the session dbus) - does the issue only occur when running applications as root under the session of a different user?

Running gdb as root to run a KDE application is a bit tricky then, but I don't think you should not have to do this for the moment (it's only relevant for segfaulting applications and segfaulting KDE applications should trigger the crash dialog anyway)

PS: sorry for not explaining gdb - i somehow assumed you were familiar with it =)
when finally encountering the crash, type "bt" and then press enter until there's no output left.
"detach" and "quit" will get you out. This will also work with transmission-qt
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Re: Plasma does not save session

Thu May 08, 2014 3:35 am
typing bt 3x gave the same output, so I just detached it
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[irfan@digmes ~]$ su -m root -c "gdb --args dolphin"
Password:
GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD]
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"...(no debugging symbols found)...
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/local/bin/dolphin
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...[New LWP 100220]
[New Thread 8116041c0 (LWP 100220/initial thread)]
Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-irfan" is owned by uid 1004 instead of uid 0.
dolphin(66330)/kdeui (kdelibs): Session bus not found
To circumvent this problem try the following command (with Linux and bash)
export $(dbus-launch)

Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
[Switching to Thread 8116041c0 (LWP 100220/initial thread)]
0x0000000804e0166c in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7
(gdb) bt
#0  0x0000000804e0166c in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7
#1  0x0000000804e0045b in abort () from /lib/libc.so.7
#2  0x0000000804089d85 in qt_message_output ()
   from /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so.4
#3  0x0000000802566a78 in KApplication::tempSaveName ()
   from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#4  0x0000000802567af5 in KApplication::KApplication ()
   from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#5  0x0000000800683b7e in ?? () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeinit4_dolphin.so
#6  0x000000080069bc49 in kdemain () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeinit4_dolphin.so
#7  0x00000000004007fe in ?? ()
#8  0x0000000800532000 in ?? ()
#9  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0x0000000804e0166c in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7
#1  0x0000000804e0045b in abort () from /lib/libc.so.7
#2  0x0000000804089d85 in qt_message_output ()
   from /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so.4
#3  0x0000000802566a78 in KApplication::tempSaveName ()
   from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#4  0x0000000802567af5 in KApplication::KApplication ()
   from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#5  0x0000000800683b7e in ?? () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeinit4_dolphin.so
#6  0x000000080069bc49 in kdemain () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeinit4_dolphin.so
#7  0x00000000004007fe in ?? ()
#8  0x0000000800532000 in ?? ()
#9  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0x0000000804e0166c in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7
#1  0x0000000804e0045b in abort () from /lib/libc.so.7
#2  0x0000000804089d85 in qt_message_output ()
   from /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so.4
#3  0x0000000802566a78 in KApplication::tempSaveName ()
   from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#4  0x0000000802567af5 in KApplication::KApplication ()
   from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#5  0x0000000800683b7e in ?? () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeinit4_dolphin.so
#6  0x000000080069bc49 in kdemain () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeinit4_dolphin.so
#7  0x00000000004007fe in ?? ()
#8  0x0000000800532000 in ?? ()
#9  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0x0000000804e0166c in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7
#1  0x0000000804e0045b in abort () from /lib/libc.so.7
#2  0x0000000804089d85 in qt_message_output ()
   from /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so.4
#3  0x0000000802566a78 in KApplication::tempSaveName ()
   from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#4  0x0000000802567af5 in KApplication::KApplication ()
   from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#5  0x0000000800683b7e in ?? () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeinit4_dolphin.so
#6  0x000000080069bc49 in kdemain () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeinit4_dolphin.so
#7  0x00000000004007fe in ?? ()
#8  0x0000000800532000 in ?? ()
#9  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0x0000000804e0166c in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7
#1  0x0000000804e0045b in abort () from /lib/libc.so.7
#2  0x0000000804089d85 in qt_message_output ()
   from /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so.4
#3  0x0000000802566a78 in KApplication::tempSaveName ()
   from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#4  0x0000000802567af5 in KApplication::KApplication ()
   from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#5  0x0000000800683b7e in ?? () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeinit4_dolphin.so
#6  0x000000080069bc49 in kdemain () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeinit4_dolphin.so
#7  0x00000000004007fe in ?? ()
#8  0x0000000800532000 in ?? ()
#9  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
(gdb) detach
Detaching from program: /usr/local/bin/dolphin, process 66330
(gdb) quit
[irfan@digmes ~]$

BTW whereis kdesu?
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Re: Plasma does not save session

Thu May 08, 2014 7:25 am
trying to gdb dolphin this way won't work at all, no reason to interact with gdb, the process already has exited.
kdesu should be part of kdebase-runtime.
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Re: Plasma does not save session

Thu May 08, 2014 8:24 am
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[irfan@digmes ~]$ /usr/local/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu gdb --args dolphin
kdesu(71820)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::PtyProcess::exec: [ /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs4/work/kdelibs-4.12.4/kdesu/process.cpp : 293 ]  Running "/usr/bin/su"
kdesu(71820)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::SuProcess::ConverseSU: [ /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs4/work/kdelibs-4.12.4/kdesu/su.cpp : 259 ]  Read line "Password:"
kdesu(71820)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::PtyProcess::exec: [ /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs4/work/kdelibs-4.12.4/kdesu/process.cpp : 293 ]  Running "/usr/bin/su"
kdesu(71820)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::SuProcess::ConverseSU: [ /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs4/work/kdelibs-4.12.4/kdesu/su.cpp : 259 ]  Read line "Password:"
kdesu(71820)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::PtyProcess::WaitSlave: [ /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs4/work/kdelibs-4.12.4/kdesu/process.cpp : 379 ]  Child pid 71825
kdesu(71820)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::SuProcess::ConverseSU: [ /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs4/work/kdelibs-4.12.4/kdesu/su.cpp : 259 ]  Read line ""
kdesu(71820)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::SuProcess::ConverseSU: [ /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs4/work/kdelibs-4.12.4/kdesu/su.cpp : 259 ]  Read line "kdesu_stub"
kdesu(71820)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::PtyProcess::exec: [ /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs4/work/kdelibs-4.12.4/kdesu/process.cpp : 293 ]  Running "/usr/bin/su"
kdesu(71820)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::SuProcess::ConverseSU: [ /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs4/work/kdelibs-4.12.4/kdesu/su.cpp : 259 ]  Read line "Password:"
kdesu(71820)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::PtyProcess::WaitSlave: [ /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs4/work/kdelibs-4.12.4/kdesu/process.cpp : 379 ]  Child pid 71832
kdesu(71820)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::SuProcess::ConverseSU: [ /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs4/work/kdelibs-4.12.4/kdesu/su.cpp : 259 ]  Read line ""
kdesu(71820)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::SuProcess::ConverseSU: [ /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs4/work/kdelibs-4.12.4/kdesu/su.cpp : 259 ]  Read line "kdesu_stub"

The application just stayed there. nothing happen
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Re: Plasma does not save session

Thu May 08, 2014 8:26 am
I told you that debugging dolphin this way would be far more complicated and is not required since the only known segfault was apparently on transmission-qt

Far more important for now is to know why you insist on debugging it as root, thus again: does this problem only happen if you try to run an application as root under the session of another user?


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