Is there a way that lancelot could automatically pick up on applications that
are installed so that panels like the documents one could "self-maintain"?
Perhaps all applications can have an "add to New Documents" option in the right
click menu (in addition to the current "add to favourites") and there can be a
right click to remove entries from the new documents panel also?

This brainstorming thread new-pim-plasmoid-t-61918.html got me thinking.

It would be nice if the "Contacts" panel in lancelot allowed you to directly open "new" PIM documents (I hate that PIM name)... like new appointment, new mail to... new note, todo, journal entry, addressbook entry. You get the picture.

@andre_orwell
1. There will have to be some changes considering the /documents/. I just need to devise a bullet-proof scheme for that. The original idea was to have 'new text document', 'new spreadsheet' etc. and not to have the application names there, but I was in a rush to push the 1.0 out, so I had placed that in the /later/ box.

The option to have it in the context menu is appealing because it is easy to do. But I'm afraid that it could be a misstep because it would clutter the context menu with an option that is used rarely.

2. Nice idea. Very nice indeed

Related to two other brainstorming posts
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=62025 and
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=61604

What about a "%username" tab in lancelot.
This could operate a little like the combined fast-user-switch applet of gnome: Giving the option of setting online status (for messaging) as well as logging off and user switching. Perhaps it could even provide access to a users settings panel (system settings -> about me). Just perhaps it could combine the power related functions like the gnome applet (susspend, shutdown etc).


Alternatively, for the "3 buttons": instead of having a single "leave" button that opens a menu, how about having 2 buttons that directly open different timed dialogs:
- Session... (logout, switch user, lock); defaults to logout
- Power... (shutdown, reboot, sleep, hibernate); defaults to shutdown

Allow lancelot tabs (applications, computer etc) to be dragged to the panel to become independent menu/plasmoid items.

1.
I don't want to make Lancelot a complete desktop environment. I know I said before that I don't want to make it a complete menu/launcher neither, but this time I really mean it. The FUS applet should be just that - an applet.

2.
I'll see about that. I'm afraid it would lead to confusion in the config interface. (in 4.3, you can choose which buttons do what, but the separation is not as you proposed - the log out is with the power functions, and switch user is separate)

3.
Ok, I suppose d'n'd could be added. Until then, you can set the launcher applet to show only the category (or categories) you want. (available in 4.3 - choose 'show categories inside the applet' and choose which categories you want shown)

Hi Ivan,

Really appreciate how you actively read and reply to user feedback on Lancelot.

I'm not sure I really understand your comments WRT becoming a DE... but I respect the fact you have a vision for this thing. Is there a particular discussion that you could point to on this topic? I'd just like to understand a bit better.

Thanks.

Hello Ivan,

This isn't really a feature request, more of a query about one aspect of Lancelot's behaviour.

I absolutely love Lancelot, It's the killer app in KDE4 for me.

It's well laid out, simple to use and does pretty much everything.

The only slight quirk I've found is the behaviour when opening.

On clicking the icon for a split second (longer on older machines)
the menu appears as a blank white box before being filled in.

Example Here*

And yes, before you ask that did take ages with ksnapshot to catch it

I was just wondering if there was a workaround or whether a fix was on a todo list.

Cheers

T

* link used instead of a too large pic'

@andre_orwell
Sorry I've been a bit vague. What I wanted to say is that I don't want to make Lancelot to be an all-but-kitchen-sink type of application.

I've received complaints that L is already too complex, and adding another section will just make the things worse. In this case, the new section would (if I understood you correctly) contain somewhere around three actions. And making another two-column section for something like that is just too much.

As I've mentioned before, the /empty/ areas in lancelot will be appletable (I've invented a word just now ). That is, you'll be able to add Plasma applets into those areas. When that is implemented, you'll be able to add an applet like FUS to L.

There are even plans to make Parts applet much more limber so that you can design your own lancelot layout etc. but that will not be anytime soon.

@logs_con
Hi, the problem is that the painting takes some time, and I haven't found a way to (OK, to be honest, I wasn't trying that much) paint it before I show it. At some point, I am going to address that issue, but it is a low priority task at the moment.

ivan wrote:@logs_con
Hi, the problem is that the painting takes some time, and I haven't found a way to (OK, to be honest, I wasn't trying that much) paint it before I show it. At some point, I am going to address that issue, but it is a low priority task at the moment.

Thanks Ivan,

That's fair play, It's only a minor niggle.

Cheers

T

This may not be the right place to discuss this - forgive... but I just switched deshtop "effects" back on in order to give 4.3 a little harder beta testing... and lancelot goes semi-transparent making it very hard to use. Even if I turn off translucency as an effect completely, lancelot remains semi-transparent. I think this is because the theme defines the panel to be semi-transparent and lancelot picks that up. It is entirely ugly.

That is Air design. Its dialogues are transparent. I'll see to make it more opaque.

This is how lancelot looks like on my desktop with plasma air theme and KDE4.3 RC1. Shouldn't the font be inverted? Or is there anything wrong in my setup?

Before this turns to a /lets discuss everything about lancelot/ thread, just a reminder - this thread is only for feature requests.

So, this is the last answer for something that is not feature-related. The problem with the theme in 4.3 is that Air no longer resides in the air directory, but in the directory named default. So, to solve your problem, edit plasmarc file and set
[Theme]
name=default

ivan wrote:Before this turns to a /lets discuss everything about lancelot/ thread, just a reminder - this thread is only for feature requests.

So, this is the last answer for something that is not feature-related. The problem with the theme in 4.3 is that Air no longer resides in the air directory, but in the directory named default. So, to solve your problem, edit plasmarc file and set
[Theme]
name=default

OK, sorry! Thank you for the answer. I had to add to plasmarc

[Theme]
name=air

With "default" it was not working nevertheless should it be fixed as Air is now default theme?