can you add a restart button please
great job

'Restart computer' button?

my vision: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.ph ... tent=94145

@szon
> division of categories to separate windows.
Already exists

> I would dispose of scrollbars.
Nope

And concerning the /Gimmie/ panel, if somebody wants to make it using Lancelot's data models, I'll be glad to help.

To assure the panel remains constant, but if not assign Kmenu access a never move position

@texas.chef94
Can you elaborate? I have no idea what you just said

Lancelot is really great, it works so much better than the kickoff menu (which is saying a lot, because I really like the kickoff menu). I do have a few suggestions. Some of these may just count as "personal preference".

1. Going back to the "Keep Lancelot Open" idea, there is currently empty space in the upper left and lower left. I would put an unlocked padlock symbol in one of those two spots. Clicking the padlock will make it lock and will keep Lancelot open, clicking it again will make it unlock and Lancelot will close automatically again. While it is locked clicking the lancelot icon (or mousing over, depending on the settings) will make it open and close, while with it unlocked the normal behavior is present.

2. It would be nice if there was an arrow in the lower left, facing to the right, that when clicked (or moused over) will collapse the bar on the left, reducing it to a thin strip. Normally I only use my favorites, so being able to hide that except when I need it would be useful.

3. It would be nice to be able to move the search box to the bottom, I use search a lot and it is much less distance to move the mouse.

4. Instead of a single small button at the top and the bottom of the scroll bar, it would be nice if the scroll up/scroll down buttons were thin strips, the same height as they are now but stretching all the way across the current level of the menu heirarchy. It is a much bigger target and it seems more natural to me that mousing over the bottom edge of the menu would scroll in that direction. Currently you have to mouse over the extremely small scroll arrow to scroll.

5. I think the chalice button would be better as a wrench button or some other more widely-used "configuration" button. It isn't immediately clear what the button does, while it would be clear if it were a wrench or something similar.

6. I think the location of the arrows at the top when navigating the menu heirarchy seems a bit odd to me. So for instance if you navigate two menus in an arrow appears over applications. But clicking or mousing over that arrow does not take you to applications, it takes you to the next level higher (so one level deeper than applications). Similarly clicking or mousing over the arrow next to favorites does not take you to favorites (although it does show it), it takes you to applications. In other words the arrow is what makes something appear on the far left, but I think it would be more logical if the arrow makes something appear on the far right. That is because, at least to me, the far right is what I consider the current level I am working with, the level I am focused on, and for me the expected behavior for clicking an object is to bring what I just clicked to the level I am currently using. That may just be personal preference, though.

1. Nice idea, while the implementation would be a bit specific. As you know, it is programmaticaly possible to place Plasma applets inside Lancelot, and I was planning to make (at least) those places available for placing applets, and one of the applets could be the locking one.

2. Although I was against changing the left bar in the beginning, now I think it is a good idea. With the implementation as in the above item.

3. Why do you need mouse to do the search? Just start typing, and the search box will be focused automatically. That *is* the reason the box is so distant - because it doesn't need the mouse to work.

4. It would return us to the scroll buttons which I'm not ready to do. I could make the buttons larger - it depends on the theme.

5. With a risk of sounding childish 'I like it this way'

6. I agree that it is less logical this way, but IMO is more functional because you always /tend to go right/ from the current checkpoint. I hope you understand what I just said

ivan wrote:3. Why do you need mouse to do the search? Just start typing, and the search box will be focused automatically. That *is* the reason the box is so distant - because it doesn't need the mouse to work.

Nice, I didn't realize that.

ivan wrote:4. It would return us to the scroll buttons which I'm not ready to do. I could make the buttons larger - it depends on the theme.

At least having it scroll when you mouse over the very bottom edge, even without a button, would be really helpful.

ivan wrote:5. With a risk of sounding childish 'I like it this way'

Some of these are just personal preference on my part. Final say is yours, of course.

ivan wrote:6. I agree that it is less logical this way, but IMO is more functional because you always /tend to go right/ from the current checkpoint. I hope you understand what I just said

I think I understand, but in my opinion logic is more important than functionality

Hi,

First of all, Great work, Lancelot is a great menu.

The things is I don't use the four categories button. When in mode where the four button are shown in the panel, i only use 2 of them. It would be great to have the option to show only those 2 buttons and not the others.

Thanks

@TheBlackCat
I'll think whether I can do something about it, but I can not promise anything ATM, although the scroll bars are slim, I find it not-that-annoying (TM) because most of the time I use the scroll wheel, but I think that something can be done about it.

@Landrovan
It was already mentioned earlier, it will be available.

ivan wrote:@Landrovan
It was already mentioned earlier, it will be available.

Sorry, I read this forum too rapidly.

Thanks for the features!

@Landrovan
I don't mind replying multiple times for good ideas

Just wanted to reply that version 1.4.9 now works for me as it should, there is a delay now if i Hoover over the left site icons. thanks for fixing that.

I'm one of many Lancelot fans...
I really thank you for the incredible work you did....

Anyway now my first idea:
It's not really new it's more a mixture of previous ideas with added twist ...
So if I configure Lancelot to show categories there should be an sub-option which of this categories should be shown.
E.g.: I don't need the contacts category so I could just "un-mark" it in the show categories.
And also when showing categories you should be able to choose to show just icons (as it is now) just text or icons and text...
That's mostly that for now...
Just got another idea...
In KDE4.2beta you have in system settings an option to specify desktop theme details.
As of now you can only specify the Kickoff plasma theme but not for Lancelot.
This should be added. As now my Lancelot looks quite "ugly". It doesn't look like it should and it doesn't look like the rest of plasma them (in my case AYA, it look just something completely strange).
If needed I can provide an screenshot.
Nothing too revolutionary, just slight "usability" improvements...
I did have some ideas about Lancelot some time ago, but I forgot them...
But I will propose them and other if I get them...