I know this may be my fault but for some reason when I install KDE 4.3.1 on Linux Mint KDE version the panel does not install and only the mouse pointer and widget button are available.
So I add panel and all widgets just fine, however, when I log out or reboot, all my widgets on the right now move to the left for no reason. I make sure they are locked.

Is there something I am doing wrong or need to add?

Thanks

If you create a new user does this occur?

If it does not, try the following under your previous user:

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killall -9 plasma-desktop
rm -rf $(kde4-config --localprefix)/share/apps/plasma
rm -f $(kde4-config --localprefix)/share/config/plasm*
plasma-desktop &

Hi, just wondered if you have found any resolution to this as I am having the same issues on a panel I created myself, I definitely locked the widgets and find that every time I reboot they move, it is a vertical panel on a netbook.

Also the panel settings panel disappears when I click the left hand button to move the widgets back in place so it takes much more effort than it should to put widgets back where they were. Maybe this should be reported as a bug.

I am using Fedora 11 with the standard KDE 4.3.3 desktop from the repositories.

I just did an update on KDE 4.2 in Mandriva and I started having this same problem. Instead of starting with Desktop View, it started with Folder View, and all my widgets were missing and my taskbar was rearranged. I changed the appearance and added widgets, but the widgets won't stay where I put them and shift to the left. It is very weird. I've been using Linux successfully for over a year now. I don't want to mess up my system anymore.

Should I try the same steps above?

I don't know the exact ramifactions of them... though it looks to me that we are deleting plasma's configuration and then restarting it. I need my computer this week and I can't afford to kill it completely. Should this work fine using Mandriva?


Ryan

I tried this in Mandriva 2009

killall -9 plasma-desktop
rm -rf $(kde4-config --localprefix)/share/apps/plasma
rm -f $(kde4-config --localprefix)/share/config/plasm*
plasma-desktop &

That didn't work same problem.

So then I logged into a guest account, opened a konsole, and did this...
su
cd ~
mv .kde4 .ked4-messed.up

Then I logged out.
I was trying to get kde configuration all back to default.

However, even with KDE configuration back to default, I still have the same problem... the widgets are messed up. They won't stay in place and they snap to left.

This last update for Mandriva messed up plasma.

My computer is still useable, but makes me wish I hadn't switched over to Linux.

Please Help!

kquitapp plasma
rm -rf $KDEHOME/share/config/plasm*
plasma &

This leads me to the same useless results... widgets won't stay in place. Kbasket opens unexplainably on logging in (but my data is now gone). It won't stay with Desktop when I login but goes to Folder View and moves my widgets all to the left side.

I do have the same problem in both OpenSuse 11.2 and Kubuntu 9.10.

Here's a snapshot to get the idea across:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/leandroribeiro/linux/after.png

The more I logout/login, the more the applets change their place. With Mint 5 (KDE 4.2, I think) this wasn't an issue.

Also: with Kubuntu, If I change a FolderView to show me the Desktop, it goes back to Home Folder after a logout/login. This is really annoying.

Any more ideas?

Ok, so I did some testing and this is what I found out:

- I removed all configurations and defaulted back to original;
- I added a new top panel, centered, not expanded, with applets in a given order;
- I also added the same applets in the same order in the original down panel;
- Login/logout gave me: top panel applets jumped around and the panel itself changed size, but down panel applets kept their given place.

This gave me a hint: the original panel was behaving as expected. I kept testing:

- I removed the Task Manager from the original down panel;
- Login/logout gave me: both panels had applets that jumped places.

Conclusion: For some reason, Task Manager is keeping everything in it's place.

Thoughts?

Can confirm the above - if there is no Task Manager widget in a panel, then everything aligns to the left and AFAIK nothing can be done to change that. I'm guessing that the Task Manager fills all unused space in a panel by default.

if there is no Task Manager widget in a panel, then everything aligns to the left and AFAIK nothing can be done to change that. I'm guessing that the Task Manager fills all unused space in a panel by default.

Then as a workaround, you could add a spacer in your panel with the desired width?

I followed your idea and did some testing with the spacer. The results are very interesting and the answer is: it depends on the size and location of the spacer.

If the spacer is small, it jumps around with the rest of the applets, but from a certain size up, the applets won't jump anymore. This got me noticing one thing: only the right sided applets jump around. All the applets on the left of the panel keep their places. So I changed the big spacer from the right to the left, and the result was: applets changed place once more.

Conclusion: there is something going on when the applets occupy a given area in the panel. If that area is occupied by a task manager or a big spacer, everything goes smooth, but if it's occupied by small applets, they change place at every given login/logout.

Hope this helps someone find a solution.

This got me noticing one thing: only the right sided applets jump around. All the applets on the left of the panel keep their places.

Have you noticed in the options of the panel, in the "More options" menu, that there is an aligment preferences which is set to "Left" by default? Might be related.

See bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=207278 .

I use KDE trunk and I have not seen this behaviour for some time. Maybe it is fixed. I'll wait for more people to confirm this to close the bug report.

Kolia wrote:

This got me noticing one thing: only the right sided applets jump around. All the applets on the left of the panel keep their places.

Have you noticed in the options of the panel, in the "More options" menu, that there is an aligment preferences which is set to "Left" by default? Might be related.

I doubt it but I'll try with right alignment to see if it does.

I've read the bug and all of the described fits my problem, but I notice it also without spacers. I didn't even knew of the spacers until I posted the problem here. So it's not "spacer" related. A big spacer solves the issue, as well as a Task Manager, so I'm guessing it's something related to having or not having a "small sized" applet in a particular position in the panel.

I'm using KDE 4.3.4 in OpenSUSE 11.2.