1. The new layout for 'add widgets' window is horisontal, which is a royal PITA. Their descriptions don't fit under thumbnails, so some of them look same. This was a very bad idea which has to be undone.

2. The widgets lack settings, such as graph colours. Why the need for this step backward? There was nothing wrong with the graphs in which I could tell CPU from nice, VM from physical and in traffic from out.

Please consider addressing the above in the coming bugfixes. Thx!

I don't know why the color setting was stripped out from the Plasmoids, probably so that the Plasma theme could specify it.

Regarding the horizontal widget dialog, the text should word wrap but isn't for some reason. Please file a bug, as this is a regression.

I already reported this here and you've read it, why do I have to take time from my already busy and disturbed by this bug schedule to make that extra effort???

Zenith88 wrote:I already reported this here and you've read it, why do I have to take time from my already busy and disturbed by this bug schedule to make that extra effort???

Because in most cases, posting a report on the forums won't help. Developers use bugs.kde.org to keep track of reports - something like a forum topic could easily be overlooked.

If you don't want to, that's OK - nobody will force you. However, maybe you should ask yourself why anyone would take time from his/her already busy schedule and fix the bug.

> However, maybe you should ask yourself why anyone would take time from his/her already busy schedule and fix the bug.

Because it's your product. If you don't care of quality, why do I? I have dozen other desktops to use. You break working functionality with that release and tell me to bugger off or do your work.

This is official forum, is it not? Does not KDE.ORG say to go to forums for support?

This isn't "our" product. KDE isn't some company, it is a community-driven project which depends on support from the community. Not financial support, but it does need some level of involvement from users to function properly. One of thing that it depends on is users who encounter bugs alerting developers of those bugs. The way that is done is through bugs.kde.org. The forums a bad place to post bugs because it has no way to keep track of which bugs belong to which programs, no way to close bugs that are duplicates, fixed, etc, no way to notifier developers when their application has a bug, and so on. I guarantee if you went to another large open-source project and tried the same thing you would get the same reaction, they all use bug-trackers and they use them for a reason.

There are a large number of developers spending large amounts of their free time to give you KDE for no cost to you whatsoever. Very few are paid anything for their work. The people running this forum are also all unpaid volunteers doing this in their free time to help a community they care about. Many with no official involvement in KDE beyond the forums, they have simply found a way to help out without having to program. After all that these people are giving you for free, is it really so much to ask that you spend 3 minutes submitting a bug report so developers are aware of the problem?

In the time you took to read the comment and post your reply you could have nearly completed the bug report.

Please read the Code of Conduct. This sort of comment is not constructive and does not help you or us.

Bottom line is you have information, how you use it is totally up to you.

Zenith88 wrote:Bottom line is you have information, how you use it is totally up to you.

The same goes for you. Let me repeat: most of us here are not KDE developers. No one who is actually in a position to fix your problem is likely to find out about it here. So the bottom line is that developers can only fix bugs they know about. If you don't let them know about it, it won't get fixed. The developers will not know about it if you just post it here.

You obviously have not read the code of conduct I linked to. As I said before, the people here are volunteers helping out in their free time.

Just the facts, I am having the same issues and don't see much posted about it. It is pretty frustrating with a brand new release to lose essential functions or visualisations without warning. There is plenty of fanfare for the new release but these essentials really drive its popularity and overall productivity for the end-user down. I use KDE in the workplace and my staff are screaming at me because of this *major regression*.

I have posted this bug report.
Bug #228111
PLEASE VOTE FOR IT SO IT GETS IMMEDIATE ATTENTION!

I have almost lost my job in the past because of my choice of FOSS that this exact situation happened--major regression on version upgrade. Luckily the company that created it has paid tech support and they listened and paid heed. Their forum moderators (whom are volunteers from the community) read every post and if there is an apparent bug will post it for the discussion thread as they can translate and interpret it in language developers can understand.

As end-users, public opinion and blogging can kill a product quite quickly these days and with all the other desktops out there, well, it's easy to switcheroo. So, in protection of our favorite desktop, KDE, we should make these reports on behalf of the ignorant but also teach them how FOSS community works. It is the only way to create legacy and future.

I will say this in defence of FOSS, as moderators, it would be a good idea to field newbies' like zenith88's concern nonetheless. Some people are new to open source and don't understand how the community effort works. I also have issues in many other FOSS arenas where there are lively discussion threads that reveal bugs or enhancements that will make or break the app but the moderators feel it is incumbent on the community to already know how this works.

It is painstaking to come and do a full-on research of the forums only and then to take the time to post to then be told to post the problem somewhere else and to a place where they may not be familiar in developers' speak.

We do want the general public to use the app and deskspace but we also know how ignorant and arrogant the general public is in self-educating about all the IT they generally use. This will certainly kick them in the butt in the near future as they'll be left in the dust as technology will be making a very large leap. Tech support will still be a thriving business and the ignorant complaints of the privileged and elite will still abound.

Added information regarding the feature regression, which seems to be a deliberate act by the Plasmoid developer. Interestingly further, they are maintaining a seperate Plasmoid on kde-apps.org with all the features...