I want to have two panels one right above the other or just two separate lines in panel for icons and another for windows list as I described here:
brainstorm.php#idea95278_page1
Here it is picture from Gnome 2:


I followed the links and found Grouping Desktop
http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Gr ... ent=116926
Do you think using 'Grouping Desktop' I can really achieve this effect shown in the screenshot?

The point is that without separating in lines, when I make panel higher the icons became automatically bigger which is awful clutter.

Moderator closed my idea marking it as duplicate, which is bad because I think this functionality should be available as default in KDE (as it is in Gnome2 and Xfce).

The author suggest that 'grouping desktop' should be in kdeplasma-addons. I installed them on Kubuntu but I can't see any new functionality.

Any help, how can I run grouping desktop? I don't know what to do.

I want to install it but I get the error as described here:
cmake error
http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Gr ... ent=116926

grouping desktops is an activity containment (not a widget/plasmoid), you need to create a new activity using the 'grouping desktops' template

google01103 wrote:grouping desktops is an activity containment (not a widget/plasmoid), you need to create a new activity using the 'grouping desktops' template

Could you please be more specific and describe in steps what I need to do? I'm not familiar with KDE at all. I just test if it is possible to achieve the same functionality on KDE as I have on Gnome2.

I installed kdeplasma-addons. Do I need to install or compile anything now?

grouping desktops' template

I don't know what template are you talking about.

Anyway, I think it would be great if the feature / functionality I proposed on the brainstorm could be default option available in KDE, so moderator shouldn't have been close it by marking as duplicate. I doubt if this 'grouping desktop' can do the job in the same easy way as for example separator in Xfce panel.

here's a tutorial for Grouping Desktop http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/GroupingDesktop it seems to only allow the grouping of widgets not stacking of panels but the Grouping Panel is a panel with support for grouping your widgets so you should be able to stack a task manager widget above other widgets - please post if this works for you and if not why not

An explanation of Activities is here http://hanschen.org/2011/02/04/activiti ... -workflow/

Thank you for useful links. Anyway, I've managed to install grouping desktop but the result is disappointing. I used grouping panel option. Have a look:
There is space of a few pixels from widget to panel edge:


After re-login it became even worse:




Everything is messed up, icons changed their size. Looks like there is no way to keep it in order.

When there are too many applications open windows list indicators on task manager widget became just like icons. There is no way too set width of this task manager widget.


Grouping panel option is maybe good for other tasks but not for this one.

Therefore I appeal to moderators to change status of my brainstorm idea.
Perhaps developers might want to consider adding new options to panels
- as it is in gnome 2:
user can place one (separate) panel above the other
or
- as it is in Xfce: separator plugin creates a new line, end everything is kept in order, nice and clean.

as I've never tried grouping I can't really help

my suggestions:

1) which type of grouping did you use, grid or flow sound the more appropriate

2) file a bug report for panel grouping, including the pics

3) copy/or link this explanation to the brainstorm thread that was marked as duplicate as an example as to why it is not a duplicate - including "The point is that without separating in lines, when I make panel higher the icons became automatically bigger which is awful clutter."

4) I know it's not going to be you preference but you could add a panel on the top for windows

Ok. Thank you for suggestions. I posted a comment asking for changing status of my idea.
Update:
Fortunately the status has been changed. So, anyone reading this topic - you can give your vote