I upated my PCLinuxOS system today (02/28/2018). KyMyMoney installed with a new version, 5.0. I opened my file and everything looked good.

However, when entering a transaction, I cannot select from the drop down list. When I do make the selection, it doesn't connect to the auto complete. In other words, if I have a Payee named "Jimmy Smith," typing in "Jim" brings up a list of potential payees (Jimmie Smith, Jimmy Smith, Jim-Jim products, etc.). After tping in "Jim" and seing the drop down list, I then scrol down to select "Jimmy Smith." But the program doesn't select "Jimmy Smith." It sees "Jim" and asks:

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Please select what you want to do: discard the changes, save the changes or continue to edit the transaction.
You can also set an option to save the transaction automatically when e.g. selecting another transaction.

I select "discard" and then the program crashes. If I select "Save," the program crashes.

The only way I was able to maneuver around this was to enter the entire name.

I'm also unable to write to a backup file. It tells me it canot mount the drive. I'm backing up to a local directory as I've always done.

There is a documented issue (bug) with what you are describing. I believe what you have described you are using your mouse to select the Payee. Until the fix is implemented in an updated release use the keyboard and the down or up bottom to select the payee and the Tab key to move forward. Using your mouse to select the Payee will give you errors like you are experiencing and not the results you're looking for.

mcarpino wrote:There is a documented issue (bug) with what you are describing.

Hi. Can you provide the Bug# pls so i can read & track it? This bug is really really annoying. I keep forgetting not to use the mouse, when adding new Billers whilst creating a new ledger transaction, consequently the bug keeps biting me, & crashing KMM without my changes saved. Tis so exasperating! In many ways v5 is very pleasant to use & a nice improvement from v4.8, but the crashes are wasting my time & boiling my blood.

steffie wrote:

mcarpino wrote:There is a documented issue (bug) with what you are describing.

... This bug is really really annoying. .... but the crashes are wasting my time & boiling my blood.

Hopefully, this blood boiling will not have lasting side effects on your health situation

The respective bug entry can be found as #390264.

A list of all fixes already carved into source code and planned to be released as 5.0.1 can be found here.

Heehee, sorry for the histrionics Many thanks for the helpful info.

steffie,

This might help a little until 5.0.1 comes out. Go to Settings > General > Global and then make sure the box is checked for Autosave periodically and lower the minutes to 1. The app will be saving the changes every minute now and if you forget to use the keyboard solution maybe it will reduce the number of transactions you have to reenter.

The work around I use is to type in start of payee name until it appears, then use either down arrow or mouse select it and press enter to select.

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Gummidge wrote:The work around I use is to type in start of payee name until it appears, then use either down arrow or mouse select it and press enter to select.

mcarpino wrote:steffie,

This might help a little until 5.0.1 comes out. Go to Settings > General > Global and then make sure the box is checked for Autosave periodically and lower the minutes to 1. The app will be saving the changes every minute now and if you forget to use the keyboard solution maybe it will reduce the number of transactions you have to reenter.

Thanks mcarpino, that's a good idea which i've now done. I had thought of this before but initially rejected it, coz with a limit of 20 autosaves that then narrows my AS history to blocks only of 20'. However these crashes [aided by my hopeless memory to keep my hand off the mouse] upset me more than i think a temporary loss of longer-term history would.

I earlier experimented with enabling another setting i'd long resisted; to AS upon Close, but that does not help. In retrospect i realise now that of course it could not help; in a crash scenario where all processes are terminated abruptly, that setting never gets invoked.

A feeble suck-up to the Devs: I think that one reason for my earlier churlish foot-stamping was that over the years KMM has been so magnificent for me, & is such a major critically important resource for me, that finding it suddenly misbehaving on me & letting me down came as a big shock. I look forward keenly to 5.0.1.

jmacleod wrote:Error - edited

Gummidge wrote: or mouse .

Teehee, glad it's not only me who keeps reflexively grabbing that mouse.

[quote="steffie"][quote="mcarpino"]steffie,

I had thought of this before but initially rejected it, coz with a limit of 20 autosaves that then narrows my AS history to blocks only of 20'.

If you're uncomfortable with this narrow history then do this at the end of your day. Go to the folder that holds the steffie.kmy data. Right click on the steffie.kmy icon and select "copy to" and save it anywhere outside of the original folder. Then rename it something like steffie3/5/17.kmy. Do this once a day or so and rename/change the date so you know what is what. Now you'll have all the history that you'll never need and then some.

mcarpino wrote: do this at the end of your day.

Another excellent suggestion. It has only one disadvantage... it relies on me having something other than a goldfish memory. Sadly however... oh look that's a pretty pebble ... oh look that's a pretty pebble ... oh look...

it relies on me having something other than a goldfish memory

That is where UNIX tools come into play. Here it would be bash

Create a file in your home directory called goldfish-memory.sh with the following contents:

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#!/bin/bash

DATAFILE=name-of-your-data-file.kmy
DATAFILEDIR=path-to-your-data-file
BACKUPDIR=path-to-your-backup-dir

TS=`date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S`
mkdir -p $BACKUPDIR
cp $DATAFILEDIR/$DATAFILE $BACKUPDIR/$TS-$DATAFILE
kmymoney


Modify the 3 assginments in the above file to your local needs. Then make this file executable using

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chmod +x ~/goldfish-memory.sh

From now on, your can start KMyMoney using

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~/goldfish-memory.sh

and the first thing it will do is creating a backup. Voilà. Placing the file goldfish-memory.sh into a directory that is part of your $PATH will allow you to call it w/o the tilde leadin just as a regular command. There are many more ways to automate this stuff

Unix is the most user friendly system I know, the point is that it is really selective about who is indeed its friend.

Oh ipwizard, i love you... witty, clever & helpful. Pls don't be offended when i say that [for now at least] i'm not going to actually deploy this, coz at the moment anyway despite my earlier remark, the practical consequences of 20' are not dire for me. However i do think it's just wonderful that yes we have this flexibility in Linux, & that you are so humorously helpful, or helpfully humorous, take your pick [or shovel]. I thank you.