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Hi, I've saw announcement for 4.9 and there's a lot of "activities" all around - is it possible to deactivate them in systemsettings? Didn't upgrade to 4.9 yet but I don't think so you can just disable them with one button just to hide this. Anyway, KDE since version 4 have reputation of a bloat. It's stable right now and gets faster with every update but the thing is: Why you force people to flood their desktops with all this stuff even if they won't use it ever?!

Great time comes to improve KDE PR with KDE "5". Bring desktop experience back, light & fast & stable DESKTOP no more, no less - BY DEFAULT. Desktop that will enable people to use their software of choice. Don't waste my precious resources (100MB at least of RAM) just to show fricking events in calendar! KDE is more than Desktop you say but it's it's still desktop so why run akonadi if I don't use any of KDEPIM (I don't even have any of this installed)? What if I use webmail or thunderbird like a sane people do (sorry Kmail2 you're not ready)? Why I need to edit config files to stop akonadi server? Do you expect regular user to tweak this?

- I'm not **** off by file indexing. Why? Because it takes ONE click to disable it SYSTEM-WIDE. That's all.
- disable akonadi by default if there is no application running it. If I enable "show events" in calendar THEN akonadi should start, not the other way around! (btw this should bring pop-up that akonadi server will be started). Bring system setting to manage that hog and disable/enable it SYSTEM WIDE
- I don't have problem with activities, I do understand them (not sure why many people don't) but I don't have particular reason to use them so why on earth I need to clutter my menus, my popups, my filemanager, my everything with this? One button in systemsetting people to hide this!

Build from bottom up! If I want to use something I will enable it - it's that simple. Leave choice to distro how to configure this. Right now after clean installation I need to spend some time to disable all this ****!

I know that, less users of particular feature is less bug reports but I think that's wrong thinking. Right now you don't get new users who seek for "just desktop". If someone will try and like KDE then he/she will discover it more and more.

PS And don't "maybe KDE is not for you" me here, I like KDE but we all can agree that something is need to be done here.

PSS And sorry, I didn't meant to offend anybody. It's just sad to see that KDE is so close and yet so far away. It's hard to recommend KDE to regular user (even regular Linux user don't want to tweak config files)

Agree wholeheartedly. I'm not a particularly conservative end user but do want / expect those goals to be incorporated into any DE I use, just seems like common sense to me. And like you , I'm comfortable turning indexing off because I'd rather boot to desktop at around 500MB than nearly 800MB but regret that something like Kjots relies on it being enabled, so end up finding alternatives elsewhere.

I support this item. I also are for enabling apps, not disabling them.

Total support, i don't like activities at all.

While I love the complexity and power of KDE software, and cannot wait for many things like activities and nepomuk to finally work for me (they just keep improving), I do believe you have a point. There can be too many features. It should be up to the users to add more power and more complexity when needed, and run a simple desktop by default.

Nor, for that matter, need beta quality apps be included as default apps. This is just the safest way to keep new users away from KDE.

alvanx wrote:While I love the complexity and power of KDE software, and cannot wait for many things like activities and nepomuk to finally work for me (they just keep improving), I do believe you have a point. There can be too many features. It should be up to the users to add more power and more complexity when needed, and run a simple desktop by default.

Nor, for that matter, need beta quality apps be included as default apps. This is just the safest way to keep new users away from KDE.

I do to love KDE customization and configuration abilities and I do like that there is a lot of option and room to tweak - this is good. The problem is not amount of features, it's way you deal with them. There is a lot that KDE can improve but this topic is about features that are resources hungry and are not necessary but yet they are forced by default (and often hard to disable or invasive even if you don't use them).

+infinity.

When I filed a bug report to make kactivitymanagerd load on demand it was said that it already is and since you use desktop you use 1 activity -> kactivitymanagerd loads. Then I just proceed with # chmod -x /usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd and lived happily ever after without any activities period. Desktop was still there (wallpaper was obviously "reset", so I had to set it again). At least it worked in 4.8, not sure about 4.9. Although it's not user-friendly way to do things.