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morfyum
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user-friendly

Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:14 pm
Hi guys, i love KDE, but i hate the unfriendly standard options! Sorry for my english, just i really angry for this beautiful BIG THING is really unfriendly!!! The normal users dont use if this is the standards! Just need a little bit repair in the normal user GUI.
Example: - The one key binds.... I cant bind to the Super key my KDE start menu... Why? I do not care!!! The one key, Super key star menu is the STANDARD!
- Have a lot of variation what gives the KDE, BUT: Dont use this the KDE Standard Desktop. There are a lot of extras: extension finder, mouser skin search, icon searc in the desktop, but no have FORMAT search. Just implement Gnome 3, Unity, KDE and low Graphics externals. And be more user-friendlier!!!

Gnome3 Appearance is better, but KDE and Qt rows are better than gtk! We, need Gnome color designs and dont use a squalid gray colors...
KDE team to develop and design answer by Gnome team! Please!!!

Guys! KDE can be not one Desktop, but also 4 or more in one Desktop. Just get some external and repair the bugs and listen the good proposals.
The 4 appearance need separately but as a developing.
Desktop type 1. entrusted to one of the Gnome
2. entrusted userfriendly-kde team
3 or not needed unity and HUD, just user conform free
4. lxqt team or low graphics developer team.

Why better is kde? I have a 1gb ram and Pentium 4 HT 3Ggz processor Dell pc and the KDE desktop run better than Xfce (gtk2) Why? Qt runtime is better or priorities is more optimalised? I dont know, but runtime is better! My desktop is smoother, but we (users) need more friendly starter appearance.

And the apple following attitude: "Applications need 60fps working" is the most important question! If the desktop is fluent, users are satisfied. AND secure!!! In my low 3ghz p4 pc is really slow, and i type to the terminal: sudo... AND!!! the pc is working, but i hurry and start typing my pw AND i see my pw in the terminal because the terminal graphic space is working... It's secure? Therefore, it does not see the typed password. But i see full of pw, if the programs dont get a required resources.
no matter how fast or slow the machine, a modern pc too can bee slow if too occupancy. But the perfect priorities can save all man life and users fall in love to the fast desktop.

Thanx for reading, and sorry for my really bad english.
I ask the opinions of simply Formulate in, otherwise not sure I understand.

Make the world a better place! ;)
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Re: user-friendly

Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:18 pm
You phrase a lot of criticism for "the default settings" though you stay vague at many points and point out yourself that you have a very specific requirement, considerung your somewhat aged system...

I do understand your frustration and I do appreciate your posting - feedback is important!
But rumbling about certain default settings not being perfect for the own situation does not really help anyone. Millions of people around the globe are in different situations and will have completely other ideas. So why should your personal preferences be more important?

Other desktop projects also have great people involved, absolutely! But your post reads as if the guys that created and are still creating the KDE environment are a bunch of amateurs that should leave the work to others. Why do you think others are better? Because they target your very specific ideas better? Or because you did not really explore their product as deep as KDE? Whatever! Rumbling about what you get from a project is not productive not well received. Sorry.
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:09 pm
I suspect that you may be using KDE/Plasma 4 and basing your suggestions/criticism on that, but can't be sure.
There have been a number of significant changes in the (default) design, usability and performance/resource usage between KDE 4 and 5, so if you are using KDE/Plasma 4 you might try out KDE/Plasma 5 and see how well that works.
What version of KDE/plasma-desktop are you using and on what version of which linux distro?

morfyum wrote:...The one key binds.... I cant bind to the Super key my KDE start menu... Why? I do not care!!! The one key, Super key star menu is the STANDARD!

They added that in KDE's Plasma 5.8, with the default behavior being to open the application menu.
For earlier KDE versions there is a utility called ksuperkey that can be used to provide that functionality.
There are a lot of extras: extension finder, mouser skin search, icon searc in the desktop, but no have FORMAT search.

What is this "FORMAT search" that you speak of? Is that something like a file fromat filter in the file manager?

Gnome3 Appearance is better, but KDE and Qt rows are better than gtk! We, need Gnome color designs and dont use a squalid gray colors...
KDE team to develop and design answer by Gnome team! Please!!!

This sounds like you are criticizing KDE/Plasma 4's default color scheme which was primarily gray with some color for accents.
The default color scheme in KDE/Plasma 5 has been updated to have mostly white backgrounds with more color in the accents, and in general the look and feel follows a lot of the current trends in UI design.
Of course you can always go through and customize the colors to your pleasing. However your claims are that the defaults are bad, so what would you propose to use for the new defaults?
Guys! KDE can be not one Desktop, but also 4 or more in one Desktop. Just get some external and repair the bugs and listen the good proposals.
The 4 appearance need separately but as a developing.
Desktop type 1. entrusted to one of the Gnome
2. entrusted userfriendly-kde team
3 or not needed unity and HUD, just user conform free
4. lxqt team or low graphics developer team.

So your idea is that there be 4 different "flavors" of KDE desktops: one designed by Gnome team (because they do so much better of a job than KDE community), one which is the current design of KDE, one which matches the design of Ubuntu's Unity with HUD, and one designed for light-weight/low-resource systems.
Perhaps this could be worth pursuing.
Plasma 5 does provide look-and-feel packages which may be able to accomplish most of the work of switching between the different flavors. We'd just need the different teams to put together these different look-and-feel packages.

Thanx for reading, and sorry for my really bad english.
I ask the opinions of simply Formulate in, otherwise not sure I understand.

Make the world a better place! ;)

We all do what we can. Of course we are only humans trying to make complex systems work the way we each want them to.


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Re: user-friendly

Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:50 pm
Personal preferences? The current key preferences is not preferences... All important key bind are hided. The Ubuntu is say the starter keys if start the system. Window$ is not say, but similar as ubuntu and you can find this options accidentally.
If i need press down 3 or more keys... I never found this options.

I am sorry that I so critical.... but... I really want a complex, elegant and well-functioning desktop.
And confused that I can't help you any more.

I can set the buttons, the appearance, but more than that I can not. I'm not a programmer. I just have a dream, but i can not do this. :(
Sorry guys.


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