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martinki
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kde neon : based on silverblue

Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:00 am
again kde-neon. but again a brainstorm - topic too. and this is my last topic.

please change the base of kde - neon from ubuntu to fedora silverblue. v.30 will be stable soon. advantages: a more stable basic system, more decision-making options, already existing activities (kde based on silverblue). positive side effect : an immutable operating system based on ostree (hybrid). so you can concentrate more on the desktop environment and act more safely - in the context of the underlying os and for the end-user. also the support of discover for flatpaks (and snaps) could be extended further. you already have your own flatpak nightly.

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/ ... erblue/147
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Re: kde neon : based on silverblue

Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:01 am
You would have to make a case as to the specific technical merits of why one base is better than another, what problems are solved, and what problems are created, all in the context of what the purpose of Neon is. At least half of what you mention above is why Ubuntu LTS was chosen as a base to begin with.

The biggest thing would the the wasted effort of yeas of knowledge and familiarity of the Debian and Ubuntu ecosystems, packaging, and iso building as well as the automation and everything else that goes into building three different sets of packages, then creating installable images.

Remember, Neon is not really a distro per se, as in they do not touch the underlying OS much if at all.


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Re: kde neon : based on silverblue

Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:17 pm
I wonder what kde neon would add over Fedora's own KDE offering? As I understand it, Fedora should already be pulling in the next version(s?) of KDE apps, libraries and/or plasma for each release (unless that's changed since https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Update_policy was last updated), so as long as you stay on top of your Fedora upgrades and updates you should keep up-to-date with KDE just like when using Neon.

On the other hand, one intent with KDE Neon is to provide up-to-date KDE on an (ubuntu) LTS base distro (so as to reduce the need to run distro updates to every 2 years). As such using Fedora is basically out of the question as there is no LTS release of Fedora. If that were the direction you'd want to take you'd need to consider Redhat (CentOS) instead and I don't see much desire to use that over Ubuntu LTS.


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