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This is somehow the opposite idea to this one

I don't care which rendering engine Konq is using and I like to have a browser that is well integrated to KDE, but I think that the webbrowsing experience of Konqueror is quite lagging behind those of Firefox/Safari/Opera.

Now that Dolphin is the default filemanager for KDE, the main focus of Konqueror should be webbrowsing and hence should be optimised for that.

When adding new features, webbrowsing should be the top priority (new webbrowsing features should be implemented, even if they don't work with the file management functionality of Konq).

Only if this isn't possible, a new dedicated webbrowser should be considered, that replaces Konqueror for webbrowsing as Dolphin did for file management.

Agreed, but not with Konqueror, as other power users might complain, as some of them use the all-in-one functionalities of Konq. Create a dedicated web browser, and keep Konq as the swiss-knife tool, but use the dedicated software by default.

Each software should do one thing, but do it perfectly. My opinion at least...

Personnaly, I believe the fact which makes Konqueror really Konqueror is the file browsing....

I don't know another browser which did it and when I am on Mac OS, I regret it. I am sure Konqueror could be weighter but to manage file was one of the fonction in his DNA. The things which bring people to KDE (me in this case).

So, I prefer to let Konqueror in this actual situation (Web Browsing, File Manager, other stuff I never use but someone use) but the vote will decide....


florentg

I must agree with Cypher. This might sound strange, but I mainly use Konq as an web-developing tool.
Well I really use it to update site for my scout group that I made, I don't think that could be called web-developing, but it sounds cool.

This would be a tragedy if it were implemented. The only reason I use Dolphin is because the Places view is not available in Konqueror ( KDE 4.3 looks promising on this front )

Creating a dedicated webbrowser that replaces Konqueror sounds like the best solution then.

NO! Don't break Konqueror! I really like Konqueror's file management, ability to render pdfs without loading another application, and IO slaves (e.g. fish://). I use it as my primary browser. When a website doesn't render properly (like it needs flash), I switch to Firefox (I don't have the flash viewer in Konqueror for security).

Konqueror is much faster and uses fewer resources than Firefox.
I agree with florentg: "the fact which makes Konqueror really Konqueror is the file browsing". After all, isn't the web just an extension of my hard drive?

I guess I spend 75%-80% of my computer time in Konquorer. I love the swiss army knife approach. Please don't break it!

No, no, no!
Konqueror is:
-An excellent File-Manager
-An excellent Web-Browser
-An excellent FTP-Client
-An excellent SFTP-Client
-An excellent Text-Editor
-An excellent Previewer
...
Dolphin is used by Konqueror. The Konqueror-File-Management-Features are exactly the same like in Dolphin.
And via K-Parts a lot of Programs are integrated:
-Editor-Component
-Okular
-Ark
-SVN
...

Konqueror s more than just a Web-Browser.
I am using Konqueror, although Firefox is my favourite Web-Browser because of FireBug.

The User

I guess the best solution is to fork out a browser app from konqueror like how Dolphin was born? I personally cannot stand the cluttered interface and overwhelming number of options present in konqueror. I want a web browser that browses and just works.

s1300045 wrote:I guess the best solution is to fork out a browser app from konqueror like how Dolphin was born? I personally cannot stand the cluttered interface and overwhelming number of options present in konqueror. I want a web browser that browses and just works.

Did you try Aurora? It's quite stable. And supports all the basic stuff that a browser must. No problem with youtube or Gmail...
And it's WebKit and written in Qt.

I have been using Arora daily for some time. Apart from a memory leak issue, it supports Flash ( Youtube ) with Qt 4.5, and GMail works well also.

bcooksley wrote:I have been using Arora daily for some time. Apart from a memory leak issue, it supports Flash ( Youtube ) with Qt 4.5, and GMail works well also.

Same. Arora seems like a great alternative as a 'pure' browser.

Arora is Qt browser, not KDE, so it leaks KDE integration and it is poor solution for KDE users.

Which is quite unfortunate. Especially since Arora's cookie support does not work with phpBB or Bugzilla, so I stopped using it.

reKonq is another alternative, which has the full cookie support of Konqueror, but unfortunately has broken POST support resulting in GMail sending messages with no recipients, subject or message, and the board failing to post new messages.

Primoz wrote:I must agree with Cypher. This might sound strange, but I mainly use Konq as an web-developing tool.
Well I really use it to update site for my scout group that I made, I don't think that could be called web-developing, but it sounds cool.

Precisely. Konqueror's frames/kparts technology makes it my personal favourite web-development program.


For me, Konqueror does everything I need - and quickly. It's not a slow web-browser at all, and in fact, in the case of this forum, I found KHTML to be FASTER then webkit. I like the cache options I get with KHTML that aren't available for webkit. I like the vim-like scroll controls. I like the smooth scrolling and the shift+arrow key for slow scrolling. I like the ctrl+arrow key/ctrl+page-up/down for scrolling when a textarea is focussed. I like being able to archive web-pages, and I like that it starts near-instantly and still maintains very, very many features that would require a (rather sloppy) add-on for Firefox to use.


The single largest problem with KHTML is Google services. That's it. That's all there is to it.