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i'm so surprised that we're all so complacently accepting of the gregorian calendar. not that i'm saying we do away with it (thats another thread and another forum entirely), but i am saying we aught to have the inclusion of a mayan calendar.

..and other calendars, but i think the trisadeca vigesemal (13 & 20 count) with pictographs is VERY helpfull.

those who've looked into mayan calendrics will already know the mayans we're way more clued up about time (and consciousness/cosmos) than our culture built on the back of judeo-christian and/or islamic culture.

for further background
here's a video on google video from ian xel lungold explaining (very well) the mayan calendar, the parts of it which pertain to the evolution of consciousness.... which is a very nice thing to align with, rather than just the stuff ol', relatively meaningless, gregorian calendar.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1090121097

here's where it gets tricky, there's more than one interpretation of the mayan calendar and translation into a modern form.
the two i go by (both of which work very well i find)
http://www.mayanmajix.com/TZOLKIN/DT/DT.html (folows the lungold/calleman version, very well researched)
http://www.starroot.com/cgi/daycalc.pl (provides wider picture, seems to have closer spiritual roots and ties to the remaining threads of mayan culture)
i see no reason against the inclusion of both.... or all!

also, (after much {re}searching), i found on ld4all forums, this link, regarding software already in this vein. http://forum.ld4all.com/viewtopic.php?t ... c&&start=0 which i've yet to look into with any depth yet, but i suppose what i'm really suggesting here is implimentation/inclusion of such a piece of software into the time/calendar software of KDE.
i'm sure there's lots more help that can be got from the ld4all guys who are interested in this, as that forum already has(had?) a little thing which presented your birthday pictograph thingy.


this idea was inspired by the merge clocks thread:
kde-brainstorming- ... 35581.html
which i think should include the mayan calendar, and also the likes of: biorythms

such an epic all-inclusive calendar/clock app would really stand out from the croud, really set KDE leagues ahead of the rest.

perhaps kit out the calendar/clock to accomodate future configurations and expansions... maybe it could inspire people to make up their own calendars for various purposes, personal or publicised.


sorry for my shoddy grammar, too excited by the idea to slow down and keep things in check.

Support for non Gregorian calendars is steadily being added to KDE. I believe support for a number of religous calendars was added to KDE 4 ( or code was reviewed )

Doesn't Mayan calender ends with 2012? But then again KDE could extend the Mayan calender for next few thousand years and avert world from impending disaster of near end .
Anyway I'm not sure that it's that useful. But why not. One calender that I would personally like to see is republican/revolutionary calender that was made during
French revolution. AFAIK it's only decimal calender.
Hey this could be a good "interpelation" point. We could make all those more geeky calenders like stardate from Star trek or Unix formatting of time etc.
maybe this idea isn't that strange after all.

The Mayan calendar just enters a new cycle (perhaps) in 2012. It doesn't "end" any more than the Gregorian calendar "ends" after each year. It just starts over again. The problem is that there is not one Mayan calendar, there are several, using different bases for numbering, and only one actually has any similarity to the solar year. Further, people aren't entirely sure when the Mayan year zero was (if I recall correctly the two most common estimates differ by centuries).

There was also the "Hobbit" calendar which actually seemed very logical. It has the advantage that the same day of the week occurs on the same day of the year every year, thanks to the addition of a few holidays that are not included in the weekly calendar.

Maybe someone could make a calendar maker application. So anyone could make their own calender.
Then we could all be like Greggary Peccary (an Frank Zappa reference)

I still don't take this ideas quite seriously; sorry. It's just that I feel that idea of cycles is a bit strange and marking days to.
I would like to see a calender and time system that would always proceed. So no repetitive cycle like week, month, season...
Anyway this idea good in philosophical sense, but impractical.

(edit~ disclaimer: excuse my unchecked excitement about this idea.)


yes! disco.* perfect wordsmithery there. a calendar maker... and build it in, or at least link it into the calender & clock on the kicker bar applet. so it's as seamless as clicking "configure clock" is now.

it'd need to be able to allow construction from any assortments and combinations of measures of time,
will no doubt need the option to include graphics for certain calenders.

*like shouting bingo, but more hip, less hip-replacement.

TheBlackCat wrote:The Mayan calendar just enters a new cycle (perhaps) in 2012. It doesn't "end" any more than the Gregorian calendar "ends" after each year. It just starts over again. The problem is that there is not one Mayan calendar, there are several, using different bases for numbering, and only one actually has any similarity to the solar year. Further, people aren't entirely sure when the Mayan year zero was (if I recall correctly the two most common estimates differ by centuries).

There was also the "Hobbit" calendar which actually seemed very logical. It has the advantage that the same day of the week occurs on the same day of the year every year, thanks to the addition of a few holidays that are not included in the weekly calendar.

excellently done TheBlackCat. i much enjoyed seeing someone else explain away the whole "end" pop-doom myth before i had a chance to.
we'll have evolved to conscious co-creators by 2001, oct 28 (according to the lungold/calleman take on the tzolkin), and will have reached the saturation point of "novelty", something like 2012, dec 21 (according to terence mckenna's timewave zero) where upon the graph will have the same resonant frequency as the birth of our universe... prevailing theories, "out there" in the bloodied edges of what academia would likely dismiss as pseudo science or something, suggest the growth of another tier of cosmic evolution, inevitably pointing to the expansion into new tier of the multiverse, and a new arrangement/consortium of spacetimes or whatever "dimensions" you want to call it.

~but that's likely a story for a different forum, i realize after i've probably gone on far enough with it.

Digit wrote:~but that's likely a story for a different forum

Yeah, this would be perfect for the TimeCube forum

timecube... as in... gene ray's timecube? lmao. yeah... maybe we could get him to make a calendar/clock too, one liberated from the toxic mind control of the deciever's time... or however he'd put it in his unique ranty way. gawd, i'm not THAT nutty am i?

(i named my laptop after that nutter*, more from lack of imagination and use of wikipedia to see who's birthday it was the day it arrived in the post, than from being any kind of follower of his "work". i could never tell if timecube was intentionally satirical, or genuinely "crackpot"esque. ~i hope its not like pet owners looking like pets, laptop owners taking on characteristics of laptop's namesakes.)

*ment affectionately.



i guess in the grand homogenisation where we're all being coerced into speaking english, and using the gregorian calendar, this idea would likely flourish more outside english-spoken, gregorian-calendar-using pockets of culture.

i'll get back to twiddling my thumbs (/or studying) until the learned capable folk put together said calender construction application, and stop using this place to appease my thirst for tangents.

LOL! Time cube
Well anyway. If proposed calender maker app would be developed someone could make that as well.
Or any other calender.
Maybe it would be good to check KDE-Apps and Qt-apps if it already exists.