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I am under the impression that developers don't like the brainstorm forum. There is an idea about integrating brainstorm with bugs.kde.org, but I would like to present an alternative solution. It would be a read-only website, not a forum like here. In its most basic form, the starting page for the website would have a list of links, one for each tag present in the brainstorm forum.

If someone clicks on the link, it brings them to a page listing all the brainstorm ideas with that tag. The ideas would probably take the form of the idea thread's title, which also acts as a link to corresponding thread in the forum (like [brainstorm] Brainstorm summary site"). It would probably also have the first few hundreds characters of the idea (without any images). It would probably be sorted by vote count or date, and would only show open and approved ideas (not implemented, done, invalid, etc).

If desired, a more advanced version of the page would allow the person viewing it to sort the list by date, votes, posts, views, and perhaps username and/or controversy. Another possible feature would be to turn summaries off, on, or show the whole post, turn images on or off, and show implemented, done, invalid, duplicate, and notanidea threads.

I don't expect someone to maintain this page, my hope would be that this could all be automated by scripts that would scan the forum, gather the relevant information, and automatically generate the pages.

My hope would be that developers would find this a more convenient interface than the forums without having to directly integrate with BKO (it could probably be linked from the BKO page). I would also hope this could be useful for the brainstorm digest (if this comes back), allowing a simple, mostly automated way to provide a list of new ideas since the last digest similar to how the commit digest provided a list of new commits (but without the excessive amount of work that entailed).

Despite I personally don't like word press a lot, it could be a perfect task for it. Easy to maintain, built in tags/categories/wysiwyg editor, RSS, multiple users, lots of plugins etc. e.g Voting could be done by digg (just paste plugin)


Rare idea, as it comes to brainstorm, can't be moved to directly Brainstorm summary site. Most of them don't have summaries, stying doesn't match, it gets updated in comments

However this could be done easily. When moderators spots idea that is enough mature, they sends green light (an invitation to WP) to ideas author offering him to transfer his idea to summary site.

Both sounds overly complex

Why dont we just simply keep the forums as a user friendly frontend? (Add in a few more options so transferring it to bugs.kde.org would be little problem)

My idea was based on keeping things simple for devs to keep track of. NOT putting the ideas where the devs hang out is rather silly and counter productive to the entire idea in the first place.

TheBlackCat wrote:I am under the impression that developers don't like the brainstorm forum.

This makes me very very sad

But I agree with Dante. If devs don't take the time to simply search by votes or by tag throughout the forum, what makes you think they would read a summary site?

jmcombatt wrote:But I agree with Dante. If devs don't take the time to simply search by votes or by tag throughout the forum, what makes you think they would read a summary site?

It's a lot easier and faster to click one or two links than it is to do a search. And there is no way to do a search and see the votes at the same time. The website would also be a lot cleaner, simpler, and easier to read than search results.

jmcombatt wrote:

TheBlackCat wrote:I am under the impression that developers don't like the brainstorm forum.

This makes me very very sad

But I agree with Dante. If devs don't take the time to simply search by votes or by tag throughout the forum, what makes you think they would read a summary site?

Also in this forum are more 1050 threads. To read them all... Forum is not the best way to do this.

Lukas wrote:Also in this forum are more 1050 threads. To read them all... Forum is not the best way to do this.

There is no good way to go through 1050 threads

I thought the hole tagging and voting was to be able to run a quick search and sort priorities. As a developer I would search for my app's tag and then sort by votes. Sure, some cool ideas with few votes my be lost, but thats our job, to vote for the really good ones.

jmcombatt wrote:

Lukas wrote:Also in this forum are more 1050 threads. To read them all... Forum is not the best way to do this.

There is no good way to go through 1050 threads

I thought the hole tagging and voting was to be able to run a quick search and sort priorities. As a developer I would search for my app's tag and then sort by votes. Sure, some cool ideas with few votes my be lost, but thats our job, to vote for the really good ones.

A good grouping could definitively help However forum is not designed to be the place to spread news, it is designed to for discussions. I don't think, that you can give a link to friend who is not so close to technical things to this forum, he would just get lost. However sharing links of blogs is a very common nowdays.


@TheBlackCat

Why simply not to try setting up a simple WP install with minimum modifications on e.g. ideas.kde.org.

Just pick up any nice theme like http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/02 ... ess-theme/ (colors pretty maches Air theme

Move there at most 20 best (voted or if mods think it is worth) and let people to spread/digg/blog/talk the news

Later ( I mean really latter) some buttons could appear like "I want to do this", "I can do this if someone helps me" etc.

What happened to the idea of a periodical (monthly?) summary post on the planet? Too much work?

andre_orwell wrote:What happened to the idea of a periodical (monthly?) summary post on the planet? Too much work?

Due to our relaunch and the ongoing work on brainstorm it is shifted a bit, but not rejected.

Whats that about then? Anyone care to explain?

What do you want to have explained? Why it is postponed?

Well, the interface for the statistics is not that mature as it should be for the monthly digest, some data is not right. We are working on that.