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Hi, as you might know by now krita has a new vision and is becoming a specialized and professional application for sketching and painting. this leaves space for other apps to fill the hole.

I think Koffice should be a basic office productivity suite. If there are also professional apps relying in this technology ,even better, but there should be a new basic app for image sketching and painting.

This idea is about that app:
It should use krita plugins and all krita code-base when possible, but it should lower the screen minimum size (to fit in netbooks for example) and remove advanced and resource heavy features (and thumb down needed and simple but still heavy features)

This idea is not really complete but I want to start some discussion about how this should be done, and also see how much people think this is a good idea.

PD: There should also be a new professional editing app and digiKam would have to add layers to become this which would be a lot of work I think and digiKam is better of as just a professional photographers app and not an editing app.

PD 2: Not fancy mock-up ,yet at least,but it should be almost like krita but without a few tools and a simpler GUI)

Edit: bad English

Any comment? I wanted to start a discussion more than showing the idea should I post in the normal forums?

Maybe a basic/advanced mode switch for krita is enough, right?

Grouping stuff in different bars may help if you need a really different set of controls. Having a way to prevent some of those bars to be visible while others are is enough here IMHO ("Format" vs "Advanced Format", "Basic Filters" vs "Filters" and so on).

Regards

Yes that would be nice but krita developers seem to really want to get specific in professional sketching and painting so I expect them to put those complicated filters and tools they need and know right in front of their eyes and these tools can't be presented to the basic user.
a different set of plugins with simplified ui but sharing the code should be made (I guess most plugins could be reused without modifications anyway)

As I've said before, I'm totally fine with people trying to build a different kind of application from the one the Krita team is building, even using our code. An easy option would be to have a different kritarc file that blacklists a different set of plugins than Krita blacklists, but that won't give you a nice, smooth, unified app with a clear purpose.

For that, you need to write code. Be aware though that that is not going to be easy. Most of the header files you'll need to use are not exported yet, but if we get requests, we can fix that. And there might come a time when Krita's core code will be unsuitable for a photo editor, or when you need something special from the core that we won't implement or include; you will have to fork our libraries then.

A last bit of advice: whatever you do, don't call your new app KImageShop or something like that

OK that's fine, anyway I don't really know to code yet I was just giving the idea, for now.
Do you agree on this app being on koffice? Can't krita plugins(simple ones) be used without mods on another programs from koffice suite? (BTW I know nothing about koffice core)
I guess it would be ok if a new core with current krita code has to be made and modified at need, as long as bugfixes which are common could be ported.(maybe sharing part of the core with krita?)

Whether or not a new app can be part of KOffice is not something that's up to me to decide: that will have to be proposed to all KOffice developers on the KOffice mailing list. I think, however, that the general opinion will be more in favour of having a separate application that uses KOffice libraries. There are some efforts underfoot that should make the KOffice libraries more stable and better suited for separated application development.

As long as an application uses the standard koffice libraries and the krita/image library, most plugins should work. If tool plugins are expected to work, the krita/view libary is necessary as well. But that's for an interested developer to figure out, of course.

Thanks, another question: would an application developed with koffice libs and krita libs be consistend with all other koffice apps? because my objetive of it being in there would be having 1 set of applications which are all consistent an play nice toghether. This is why I like koffice idea and not all separated apps, so if I someday become professional(don't think so but suppose)I could use krita without re-learning everything.