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In KDE currently we have to de settings at many places -

- System settings
- Settings for each KDE plasmoid (widget)
- Settings for each KDE application
- Settings for desktop activities
etc.

All these settings should be possible from one place - "System Settings".

This is an additional place to change the settings and current places of settings will also be available.

Widgets Settings
- For widgets settings there should be one option - "Widgets Settings" under "Computer Administration"
- Once we click there it should show complete list of installed widgets
- We can select the widget of which we want to change the settings
- The settings options for that widget will be available for changes

Applications Settings
- For applications settings there should be one option - "Applications Settings" under "Computer Administration"
- Once we click there it should show complete list of installed KDE applications
- We can select the application of which we want to change the settings
- All the settings options under "Settings" menu for that application will be available for changes

Desktop Activities Settings
- Under "Desktop" settings in "Look & Feel" there should be one more option to change desktop settings of each desktop

I actually disagree with this. Having settings where they're relevant makes much more sense. Configure the clock widget ON the clock widget, not in systemsettings. Configure dolphin in DOLPHIN, not in systemsettings. etcetera.

That way only the relevant, system-wide stuff is in systemsettings, everything else exactly where you would expect it to be.

Yes the settings for a particular application should be available from that application, but I think that it could be nice for applications to register their settings dialogs with the system settings so that you can go to System Settings -> Application Settings -> Kate, or System Settings -> Desktop -> Activity Settings -> Work Activity to access those settings from the System Settings window (similar to how all of the shortcut settings, both global and per-application, can be accessed from both the individual applications and from the System Settings dialog).

airdrik wrote:Yes the settings for a particular application should be available from that application, but I think that it could be nice for applications to register their settings dialogs with the system settings so that you can go to System Settings -> Application Settings -> Kate, or System Settings -> Desktop -> Activity Settings -> Work Activity to access those settings from the System Settings window (similar to how all of the shortcut settings, both global and per-application, can be accessed from both the individual applications and from the System Settings dialog).

Possible. It shouldn't be there by default as it would just add to the number of settings in systemsettings - and there's more than enough in there already. And even as an option - what's the added advantage? You like going through it all? OK, I get that, so do I, but for the average user it has 0 advantage...

jospoortvliet wrote:
Possible. It shouldn't be there by default as it would just add to the number of settings in systemsettings - and there's more than enough in there already. And even as an option - what's the added advantage? You like going through it all? OK, I get that, so do I, but for the average user it has 0 advantage...

What's wrong with having all of the possible settings available in the central settings manager (systemsettings)? I would argue that it gives more unity to the desktop/software collection - being able to configure everything in one place. Certainly System Settings can use to be reorganized so that a new user doesn't get lost looking for the setting they wish to change, but I don't think removing settings from System Settings or restricting the kinds of settings added to it is the answer.

jospoortvliet wrote:I actually disagree with this. Having settings where they're relevant makes much more sense. Configure the clock widget ON the clock widget, not in systemsettings. Configure dolphin in DOLPHIN, not in systemsettings. etcetera.

That way only the relevant, system-wide stuff is in systemsettings, everything else exactly where you would expect it to be.

I have specifically said that "This will be additional place".

I didn't propose that settings from current places will not be allowed.

chetankhona wrote:I have specifically said that "This will be additional place".

I didn't propose that settings from current places will not be allowed.

Sure. But to answer both you and airdrik's comment above yours, this would clutter systemsettings heavily for very little benefit.

Of course it would be possible to heavily redesign systemsettings to alleviate the issue of clutter. Someone has to do that, however, and there is still the question of what exactly the benefit is or would be?

"more unity" - ok, having it all in one spot. Nice if you like going through all the thousands of settings, figuring out what you want to change. Not really something casual users do, I suppose. Currently, if something bothers you, you change it WHERE it bothers you. Having it all in systemsettings won't improve much.

again, negative:
- work of adding it (including maintenance)
- cluttering systemsettings beyond the stars (imagine the hundreds of KDE apps, all in there... aargh)

positive:
"more unity" ?!?

jospoortvliet wrote:

chetankhona wrote:I have specifically said that "This will be additional place".

I didn't propose that settings from current places will not be allowed.

Sure. But to answer both you and airdrik's comment above yours, this would clutter systemsettings heavily for very little benefit.

Of course it would be possible to heavily redesign systemsettings to alleviate the issue of clutter. Someone has to do that, however, and there is still the question of what exactly the benefit is or would be?

"more unity" - ok, having it all in one spot. Nice if you like going through all the thousands of settings, figuring out what you want to change. Not really something casual users do, I suppose. Currently, if something bothers you, you change it WHERE it bothers you. Having it all in systemsettings won't improve much.

again, negative:
- work of adding it (including maintenance)
- cluttering systemsettings beyond the stars (imagine the hundreds of KDE apps, all in there... aargh)

positive:
"more unity" ?!?

KHelpCenter also puts complete help at one place.

This surely helps users who are looking for help on any topic.

Similarly settings at one place might help users to easily find the right place of settings.

Additionally System Settings has very good feature of search. This will further make it easy for users to search and then configure.