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Sometimes KDE makes me really crazy
I'm use about 3-4 external drives. Sometimes I need to plug/unplug them very often. Sometimes they are plugged before I'll turn on my PC.
In this case I realize that KDE mouting system is awful.

Things that really borrows:
1. I ALWAYS need to click on the disk icon on new device applet pop-up window or on the applet icon because new device notify window WON'T CLOSE AUTOMATICALLY.
2. Sometimes I do not need to open external drive in dolphin at all, I just need it mounted.
3. External drives witch plugged before PC is turned on not mounted automatically.

IDEAS:
1. New device notify window auto hide ability with ability to change delay value in the config
2. Ability to mount plugged drive without opening it in dolphin. Maybe there should be to active icons/buttons on the just plugged drive block: "mount and open in dolpin" and "just mount". Maybe it should be in widget config options.
3. Possibility to automatically mount external drives if they are was plugged before PC is turned on.

If this 3 ideas will be realized external drives auto mounting will be not so necessary.

1. may or may not be a good idea. It's a personal preference, and adding such configuration options must be at the choice of the developer. They may be good reasons why the device-notifier doesn't have configuration options.
2. There already is an idea for this - maybe even submitted? Try searching.
3. Mounting at boot is handled by fstab, not hal. An entry in fstab will simply fail if the drive is not plugged in, but that will seriously delay booting. It really is simpler to simply unplug the device and re-plug it.

annew wrote:1. may or may not be a good idea. It's a personal preference, and adding such configuration options must be at the choice of the developer. They may be good reasons why the device-notifier doesn't have configuration options.

So it should be in widget option's: "use auto hide" (yes/no), and "auto hide delay in ms". In this case it'll be good for all.
This idea is near close to the 2nd idea. If I use already dolphin and I want to open my just plugged device in new dolphin's tab, I MUST somehow close new device widget window, because then I'll mount my device through dolphin - widget pop-up will not close.

Please only post one idea per topic.

1. is possible with Device Mananger, but it doesn't seem possible in trunk (what'll be KDE 4.4) currently.

2. Already implemented. http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/10/devi ... or-44.html

3. Will be possible with a System Settings module (Automount), not sure you'll see it in KDE 4.4 however. Also possible with Device Manager.

I saw an announcement in the mailing list that mount manager has been moved to trunk. As for auto-hiding, according to the blog post Hans linked to this is planned too. So all of these are already implemented.

A bit late in this thread I know but having a head banging experience trying to get automount led me here.
The main problem (if that is the right word) is that there has been a fundamental change in policy between K3 and K4. K3 had automount, K4 doesn't - it has 'mount on demand' which is good for some things and rubbish for others. Any discussion about this wanders into fstab and Hal territory, but the fact is that what most people want in an automount behaviour is - when you plug in an external hard drive/pendrive, any sort of storage media, then an icon appears somewhere, through which you can access a file/song/movie, the meaning of life, whatever. I think, and this is my personal view, that the change in this between K3 and K4 has been a regression.
If, and I can see the reasoning behind 'mount on demand', this behaviour is required then surely it can be achieved in the pop up by not ticking the 'do this each time' style box, or specifying 'on demand' in a set up menu.
I have K4 set up pretty well how K3 was with Folder View, because that is the way I like it. There is no reason why my drive/DVD/CD/pendrive icon cannot appear as per K3. Oh, and the notifier is very annoying, for most of the reason stated above.

OH, and the new notifier 'rather nicely addresses both of the major outstanding issues with the current device notifier' (link Above) No, sorry it doesn't, it is just prettying up something without giving real options.

annew wrote:1. may or may not be a good idea. It's a personal preference, and adding such configuration options must be at the choice of the developer. They may be good reasons why the device-notifier doesn't have configuration options.
2. There already is an idea for this - maybe even submitted? Try searching.
3. Mounting at boot is handled by fstab, not hal. An entry in fstab will simply fail if the drive is not plugged in, but that will seriously delay booting. It really is simpler to simply unplug the device and re-plug it.

Nonsense.

What is nonsense, and why?

TheBlackCat wrote:What is nonsense, and why?

Okay

"1. may or may not be a good idea. It's a personal preference, and adding such configuration options must be at the choice of the developer."

It SHOULD BE a personal preference. It isn't for the user.

"3. Mounting at boot is handled by fstab, not hal. An entry in fstab will simply fail if the drive is not plugged in, but that will seriously delay booting. It really is simpler to simply unplug the device and re-plug it."


as stated in FSTAB: PLUGGABLE DEVICES ARE HANDLED BY UDEV, THEY ARE NOT IN FSTAB I have never found a difference in booting speed of any significant amount. Even so, it is not likely it would offset the time and inconvenience of opening Dolphin each time the device needs to accessed.

"And, It really is simpler to simply unplug the device and re-plug it."

Nothing simpler than having to open Dolphin each time you need/want to access the plugin -often several times during a session? Yes, there is.

Rather to have a notifier to 'one-click'. There would then be the personal preference of using it -- or not.

Another is a plugin USB air modem, which may or may not start on boot. Without a notifier one must start a browser to determine that status, since it doesn't appear in Dolphin. Nuisance, you betcha.

LOL. I love being late to the party.
What would happen IF;

A. Plug it in.

B. Duh, the OS says, hey I see it, what do YOU want to do?
B2.the OS collects a list of the things you used last time and offers those to you again unless YOU have chosen to turn off that damned annoying pop up.
B3. I already know I plugged it in. I don't actually need to be told I just did unless I WANT to be warned. Just show me a little icon or small widget if I so choose, that the device is there and ready for me.

C. clickity-clickity I go, clicking all the way, to the functions I want to use with said, plugged in device.

D. pop-up goes the hell away soon if I don't click it.

THEN

E. pop-up asks me if I want to be warned for this device again, today or ever or always.

I have a dream that all good OSes will one day be perfect and nothing will task us, ever. Hell n heaven unite and keep us from having to click on a pop-up during work.
Heck I'm still waiting for truly operative voice recognition so I don't have to type any commands or click open another dam window ever again. My button finger is starting to rot. Can you say star trek on steroids? I can and it sounds good.

Yeah!! Beam me to that netherland, please...

4portswitch wrote:LOL. I love being late to the party.
What would happen IF;

A. Plug it in.

B. Duh, the OS says, hey I see it, what do YOU want to do?
B2.the OS collects a list of the things you used last time and offers those to you again unless YOU have chosen to turn off that damned annoying pop up.
B3. I already know I plugged it in. I don't actually need to be told I just did unless I WANT to be warned. Just show me a little icon or small widget if I so choose, that the device is there and ready for me.

C. clickity-clickity I go, clicking all the way, to the functions I want to use with said, plugged in device.

D. pop-up goes the hell away soon if I don't click it.

THEN

E. pop-up asks me if I want to be warned for this device again, today or ever or always.

I have a dream that all good OSes will one day be perfect and nothing will task us, ever. Hell n heaven unite and keep us from having to click on a pop-up during work.
Heck I'm still waiting for truly operative voice recognition so I don't have to type any commands or click open another dam window ever again. My button finger is starting to rot. Can you say star trek on steroids? I can and it sounds good.

Most of those are already available in 4.5. You can set the widget to always hide if you don't want to see the popup, and it automatically hides after a period of time. Having it not warn about specific device is a valid idea, especially if they are already set to automatically mount. Please make a new brainstorm idea for that.