IM client from *scratch*
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Question: do you think these flaws are so impossible to fix in Kopete that it warrants re-writing it from scratch? I don't think so: -First time you open it the Accounts section (accessible from the bottom-right icon) actually shows, and has the option, "Create new account...". For a lot of users this is obvious enough, but making it more obvious (e.g. greying out the contact area and having the message there instead) would be trivial. -Identities could be removed. -Initial set-up wizards could be simplified, with advanced options available after initial set-up. -A loading wheel could be placed in the toolbar at the far right or similar. -Your picture is displayed in the Accounts section in the bottom-right icon. It can be changed by clicking the picture, then using an existing image or creating a new one from the webcam. -I think not including the name and status message in a huge block at the top is a design decision and something that wouldn't be changed, for the sake of simplicity and consistency of UI. -Protocol compatibility wouldn't be fixed and, in fact, could be made more difficult by a complete re-write of the application. However, porting Kopete to Telepathy isn't being done completely immediately as Telepathy itself still has lots of gaps in compatibility that sometimes don't exist in Kopete's native protocols (file transfers, for example).
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@madman:
I didn't mean that kopete should be re-written, I just wanted to say what things should be fixed in kopete for me. if these things can be fixed whithout a re-write, it's better(I never actually thought that). I just wanted to state what things i didn't like about kopete |
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I still doesn't understand how some people thinks that konqueror is outdated... I use it everyday for browsing multiple remote resources (ftp/smb/fish)... there is nothign comparable to the konqueror features...
konqueror is not only a web browser + local file browser, is much more! |
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After Akademy I feel I should give some update on this.
Telepathy /is/ a DBUS interface between a client and libpurple etc. + a whole lot more. The telepathy plugin for Kopete probably isn't going to be able to really make use of all of the point of telepathy, however it will help people switch over. There is a telepathy contact list application being prototyped with integration with Akonadi (via Nepomuk) built in from the ground up. I've started working on a chat window, mostly just for telepathy testing. However if anyone has any genuine mockups and well thought out ideas, I'd be happy to hear them. |
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i am so looking forward to finally get an instant messenger solution that works with telepathy and is really integrated into kde/plasma (and hopefully is capable of doing some voip stuff)
i just made a mokup for the chat window.. i would definitely make the ui adjustable.. like it is done in kdenlive for example with the option to "lock ui" (and hide the (x) ) - the list on the left could be used as replacement for tabs (the active chatpartner would glow like oxygen windows (light blue) - there could be an option to group them (equal to invite for group chat) grouped contacts and single chats could co-exist.... http://stuff.xapient.net/public/mockup1.jpg thx for your work! i'll be definitely testing in september ^^
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Moved this into "Done" because the KDE Telepathy team have several stable releases out.
It's taken the team nearly 2 years of (stressful) evenings and weekends to get to where we are now - that's how much work is involved in "simply writing a new IM client from scratch". I think we must have shared a lot of the same viewpoints as the original poster of this, but I'd like to point out we didn't devote so much of our free time to it because we saw a half page post on the internet and to stress how much of a massive request that is. What has been useful, however, have been the much more sensible little ideas, the mockups, the UI tweaks and they have shaped how KDE Tp is going. Please keep that up, any brainstorm on tweaks and ideas will be listened to. Also I hope anyone who commented on this thread is actually using and testing KDE Telepathy! |
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