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Edit: i also want the action of going to higher level directories and back to lower ones like gnome does, its much easier to do stuff that way, at the moment i have to use splitview for that kind of thing, but if it acted like gnome's breadcrumb it would be a lot better.

Can dolphin's address bar be made to look like gtk2's?

With those i know exactly where the boundary is and which area i have to click, with the way it is now i'm aiming for text, but text is too thin, its made of lines about 1px wide, so i have to estimate/imagine an area around the text that is clickable, so i aim near the text then start to move the mouse towards that point and finally the mouseover shows up as i get closer and shows how big the click area really is, usually its bigger than i thought it was. Looking at text means you have to estimate the button size, go near it, and react to the appearance of the mouseover which indicates that the mouse has now reached its destination and i can click. I hate it like this yay, i want it like this:



if you know exactly where the button is, then its a simple move to the destination and click, its simpler and faster

Can't you just aim for one of the letters? Unless the name of the folder is a single "I", there will either be an area inside one of the letters or between two letters that is guaranteed to be clickable. It is no different than clicking on a link on a web page. Web pages do not need to draw a box around the text to let you know where you click, you just click on the text and off you go. I don't even think about the button, I just click on the text.

I personally think it looks a bit messy. KDE is one entity, GNOME is another. I'm not really sold on the idea of making KDE look like something it's not.

You could make a widget look that would incorporate this.
But I'm pretty sure that this is somewhere among the Bespin option.
I know there are a lot of tweaks for button from making it outdent/indent...
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I do like how in gnome's version you can go up to a higher level directory by clicking on it and the rest of the tree doesn't disappear, you can still click on the buttons for lower level directories to go to them

FoxBlitzz wrote:I personally think it looks a bit messy. KDE is one entity, GNOME is another. I'm not really sold on the idea of making KDE look like something it's not.

but gnome does such a good job, why not copy it?

If kde did it gnome's way you wouldn't need a dropdown list and you could open files in the higher level directores and see previews

Primoz wrote:You could make a widget look that would incorporate this.
But I'm pretty sure that this is somewhere among the Bespin option.
I know there are a lot of tweaks for button from making it outdent/indent...
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but i want the action of going to higher level directories and back to lower ones too

SmilingSun2 wrote:but i want the action of going to higher level directories and back to lower ones too

That would be a new idea, so please create a new thread for this.

SmilingSun2 wrote:If kde did it gnome's way you wouldn't need a dropdown list and you could open files in the higher level directores and see previews

How would this eliminate the need for the dropdown list? One of my big problems with the gnome UI are that its does not include the dropdown list. I really do not want them to get rid of that. Whether you can keep subfolders open in the list or not, navigating using the dropdown list is a lot easier for me than fully entering the folder in many cases.

SmilingSun2 wrote:but gnome does such a good job, why not copy it?

Because you're missing the point. Part of Linux's attraction for me is the freedom to customize the system to your own needs. GNOME and KDE both present different views on interface design. If I don't like GNOME, I should have the freedom to choose something else. If you like the GTK conventions so much, why don't you just use GNOME/Nautilus instead?

As for the higher directory stuff, I can tell you that there are at least three different ways to navigate back after going higher in directory space: the Back button, the drop-down list, and the folders tree. For one, I think the drop-down list is actually incredibly useful. Why remove a feature that's helpful? To me that's needlessly negative. The other two pretty much already provide the functionality you want, just through slightly different methods.

FoxBlitzz wrote:As for the higher directory stuff, I can tell you that there are at least three different ways to navigate back after going higher in directory space: the Back button, the drop-down list, and the folders tree. For one, I think the drop-down list is actually incredibly useful. Why remove a feature that's helpful? To me that's needlessly negative. The other two pretty much already provide the functionality you want, just through slightly different methods.

There's also a UP option. back gets you to last folder you were in even if that folder isn't higher folder of the current folder, while UP always brings you to higher folder of your current folder.
Mind you that this is by default only in Konqueror but not in Dolphin, but AFAIK it's possible to add a button for that in Dolphin.

Well i've been using thunar as my default file manager for a while now, and its perfect. KDE4's bread crumb navigation isn't as good as the one used in thunar and gnome apps. One thing i don't understand is why the developers of kde4 didn't just use gnome's way of doing it. If they had there wouldn't even need to be a dropdown list on the end of each folder name, you could go to above folders and just pick a subfolder or return the end of the trail without unnecessary clicks.

I really think the navigation needs to be sorted out.

SmilingSun2 wrote:Well i've been using thunar as my default file manager for a while now, and its perfect. KDE4's bread crumb navigation isn't as good as the one used in thunar and gnome apps. One thing i don't understand is why the developers of kde4 didn't just use gnome's way of doing it. If they had there wouldn't even need to be a dropdown list on the end of each folder name, you could go to above folders and just pick a subfolder or return the end of the trail without unnecessary clicks.

I really think the navigation needs to be sorted out.

I still don't know what exactly you wish. I've installed Thunar just because of this. And only thing that it has and Dolphin doesn't is that if you go one folder or even more up it still shows you the recently opened subfolders.
But you propose thing that has nothing to with that. You wish different style of breadcrumbs buttons, but in KDE it does change colours when hovered so I really see no reason what exactly is that you wish. And the subfolder idea was already proposed by TheBlackCat in another idea.
For me this seems more of an personal preference issue, which maybe could be solved with widget style that would emulate Gtk look.