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Currenty kde4.4 shows a lot of information about your system, eg copy a lot of files from one device to another and watch the notification system go haywire, a message for every directory of bunch of files copied with which you need to do nothing at all on top of all these files copied there is also a history.

I know there was already a suggestion to make notifications less obtrusive but my idea is to basically only popup if user input is needed or possible.

As the name applies, the whole point of notifications is to notify people of things. The point of notifications is to combine what used to be a large number of separate pop-ups into a single system. Especially for long jobs, people like to see how far their file transfer has gone. Rather than just making them guess, or popping up a separate window, this goes in the notification system. Downloads, CD/DVD burning, and compressing or extracting files are all long tasks that many people want to be able to keep track of. Your idea would either require a separate window for progress meters (which reverses the whole purpose of notification system in the first place).

In fact, if I recall correctly, Kubuntu even went the other way and removed all interaction with their variant on the KDE notification system.

So I don't think your idea is a good way to make notification less obtrusive. On the contrary, I think it goes against the whole purpose of notifications, which is to notify people.

When there is nothing I can or need to do, don't bother me. Gnome btw has a useful and very non-obtrusive notification for file transfers: a small notification in the tray, which goes away when all jobs are finished and when clicked show all running jobs, no popups, no distraction yet perfectly functional.

In fact, if I recall correctly, Kubuntu even went the other way and removed all interaction with their variant on the KDE notification system.

Bad idea, I don't want to be bothered by stuff I can not do anything about, only by decisions which I only know how to make at that moment.

Notifications should have a little bit of both. Some applications need or want feedback, others let you know valuable progress information. Notification is an event based system and events pending there just simply may or may not be interactivity.

Notifications are simply to notify the people concerned. This is either interactive or not. But basically it is most effective to only have one system to check on these.

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Notification system is one of the most important things when interacting with the computer on these days.

I can say that I dont like the GNOME/Canonical style where I need to go click the notification to get it tell information. Especially when I do lots of small data moves/copies where I need to know exactly when to say another person "it is there" or I can in horry just grab the stick or close the connection.

Fully passive and hided notification system does not work well. It is nice thing to believe it is like relieve that you dont need to know it or when you want you just click it.

But humans thinks timeline all the time. "What I do this time when I am waiting....." "When comes the ....." "Do I have time to...."

The perfect world would be such where bus, taxi, train, airplane would all move at same speed and everyone would get magically their times in their knowledge.
It is very annoying to wait a bus when you don't know is it going to be late longer than already is so you could buy something from store next of you as there is no line.

Estimated time information is even better than no information at all. (Yes, you can click the list open but that is not the point).

Thats why I designed the passive notification system what offers visual and text format for times. It does not need mouse clicks to give user the notifications, it hides unimportant notifications when they are not needed (like when copying data), notification stays passive but if there comes problems, like target media space is full the notification comes important and asks user attention.

I used in my passive and intuitive notification system idea a metaphor of a butler. Just imagine the perfect butler who informs only when it is really needed. Otherwise he stays out of mind.

The GNOME/Canonical does not work smart way. As the butler never do anything by themself. They do not learn what are habits of their masters, they dont remember who is who and what are others for master. It is like a new butler in the house or replacement for old one when old is keeping holiday weeks.

But if it would make some people happy, then just add to current notifications settings > pop-up > "dont pop-up" tick next to "Automatically hide".

Then user needs to click to show and hide the notification list. Not a smart thing as it is already a broken by design but...