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New windows decoration with more transparency.

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bFr-33
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I am not saying that the oxygen theme is ugly.
I just think that now it is not the best theme for kde.
Panels, notifications etc. are more transparent than ever and the contrast between these things and the oxygen theme is greater than ever as well.
Everything gets even worse when windows are in full screen mode.
Look at this picture:



I mean, I don't think that's something very pleasant to see.
I think that windows decoration should be transparent like the ones in windows7, and maybe a little bit less out of proportion.

In my opinion this would result in a more beautiful and relaxing experience.

Thank you! :)
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You provide several different independent ideas. There should be one idea per thread.

Someone is already working on a transparent version of oxygen, but there are problems with certain programs (for instance video players) that makes this difficult. There is also Aurorae which provides dozens of transparent window decorations, including clones of oxygen, as well as several other window decoration that provide transparent options. In the meantime you can set the transparency of the window decoration in desktop effects->all effects->tanslucency

As for your other issues, you list problems, but don't provide any suggestions on how they should change it to make it better.

It looks like you are using dolphin. In the case, the space has to be huge, because you have the the title bar, address bar, menu bar, and toolbar. You cut out all of the things that are actually using the space so it look unused, but it is being used. You can set the icon size to small, turn off text, put the text next to icons, or use text only.

For that matter, windows 7 wastes a lot more vertical space than oxygen does.

You can change the border size in oxygen-settings

I am not clear on what the problem with the contrast is.


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TheBlackCat wrote:You provide several different independent ideas. There should be one idea per thread.


Yes, but the main idea is that I don't like the way Oxygen is integrated with kde.

TheBlackCat wrote:In the meantime you can set the transparency of the window decoration in desktop effects->all effects->tanslucency


I could be wrong, because I don't have a lot of experience with kde, but that effect has nothing to do with the glass/transparency effect I am talking about.

TheBlackCat wrote:As for your other issues, you list problems, but don't provide any suggestions on how they should change it to make it better.

Which other issues? I said I'd like more transparency (by that I mean glass effects) and windows decoration less out of proportion.

TheBlackCat wrote:For that matter, windows 7 wastes a lot more vertical space than oxygen does.

Maybe it's true, but the ratio between the vertical space and the boarder size is smaller than the Oxygen one.

TheBlackCat wrote:You can change the border size in oxygen-settings

Again, I don't have a lot of experience with kde, but the good ratio between the vertical space and the border size should be something available by default.

TheBlackCat wrote:I am not clear on what the problem with the contrast is.

Well, you can easily notice the contrast between the transparent panel and the grey window. Personally, I don't like that.

If I suggest something is just because I firmly believe in the kde project.
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Ideas that can be implemented separately need separate threads. That is the only way we can keep track of whether ideas are implemented.

As for transparency, that idea is already being worked on, and it is a duplicate of existing ideas anyway.

For the default border size, you can submit a separate idea about that.

For the contrast, that is a plasma issue, not an oxygen issue. Plasma developers intentionally decided make the theme to have different colors. There are plasma themes available that match the oxygen color scheme. You are free to suggest that one of those be made the default plasma theme instead (in a separate idea), but I doubt it would be accepted by plasma developers.


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TheBlackCat wrote:Ideas that can be implemented separately need separate threads. That is the only way we can keep track of whether ideas are implemented.

As for transparency, that idea is already being worked on, and it is a duplicate of existing ideas anyway.

For the default border size, you can submit a separate idea about that.

For the contrast, that is a plasma issue, not an oxygen issue. Plasma developers intentionally decided make the theme to have different colors. There are plasma themes available that match the oxygen color scheme. You are free to suggest that one of those be made the default plasma theme instead (in a separate idea), but I doubt it would be accepted by plasma developers.


Well, since I prefer by far the plasma theme than the oxygen one I'd love to see windows decoration developed by plasma developers!
Is that possible?
I think they did a very good job with the look of plasma.
Why they didn't develop a theme yet? I mean, certainly they know how to integrate windows decoration with plasma. :)
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That is the whole point of Aurorae window decoration, it uses a similar theming system to plasma. If you prefer the look of plasma, use Aurorae. It may become the default window decoration system in the future, but I think there are some limitations that prevent that right now.


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