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Linux4UnMe
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Kde Simple mode / Advanced mode

Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:51 am
Alot of people particulary from the Gnome side of the fence often complain that
Kde is bloated with Far too many features and options. I propose a solution to this problem by introducing a switch that allows the user to switch their Kde Desktop to either a "Simple mode" Which will set Kde to only show a Minimal set of Desktop options that will not overwhelm the user.... and an "Advanced mode" when switched on will set Kde with Full blown options and features

This suggestion will make Kde appealing to people who are on both sides of the fence who prefer either a Minimal Simple Desktop such as Gnome, Or a Fullblown Desktop with overwhelming features


What do you think about this idea?
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Kde Simple mode / Advanced mode

Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:51 am
I see the biggest issue when you have a lot of features on the one side but the standard file manager isn't working perfectly on the other. Or when there are features but there is no documentation that describes how to use them and you are not the expert for that feature. Or you have a feature but the functionality is broken.

I understand why things in open source projects sometimes go this way but for a desktop there are key features like winwdow handling or a file management. As long as these are only of limited use people will not look at the nice social networking integration that works very well.

I suggest to switch to a mechanism like in the linux kernel but with faster transitions from experimental into normal state. Everything where quality, reliability, and documentation are not perfect should be in an experimental state and only made available on request. When a feature is already useful in one setup but there are 5 options that will not work these options shouldn't been shown to the user in the normal state.

I know that sometimes the reasons are not KDE itself. When the xserver has a broken feature and KDE uses it the reason isn't KDE. But to avoid this there sould be a way for distributions to move these features from normal into expimental state.

I know a lot of people that left KDE and are now working with xfce or gnome because of these issues. I stayed all the time at KDE side and I see a lot of progress in KDE 4.5 and KDE 4.6. But there have been the releases 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3 and 4.4. The first KDE 4 release I would give to my mother is KDE 4.6, perhaps KDE 4.5 as a preview.

Please don't blame for that.


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Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:04 am
really? if you want to configure your widget style you already have to click on "configure" - if thats too much.. don't enter the "advanced mode" and avoid clicking on configure! (that argument fits for almost everything)

kde is not bloated at all.. this is an outdated statement of "gnome" users who never tried kde4 and are afraid of learning something new..

i once counted the number of "clickable" objects in the default kde setup for an ignorant gnome user (not that gnome users are ignorant, but thisone was) .. there were 2 clicks less than in the default gnome setup ^^

have a look at "desktop settings" for example.. what in the world would you cut out there?


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Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:26 pm
I think it would be better to just properly organize the settings. KDE actually used to have simple and advanced settings, but this was too confusing so it was removed.


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Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:39 pm
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Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:21 am
With system monitor app, I tested on Kubuntu how much memory some desktop environments use. This is the average with no other window open and the effects are disabled.

KDE uses 270 MB
Gnome uses 100 MB
Xfce uses 90 MB
LXDE uses 80 MB

KDE becomes slow when it is used on hardware with 512 MB of memory.
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Kde Simple mode / Advanced mode

Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:09 am
isn't this a little off topic? and what are you counting as KDE? is nepomuk kde? is akonadi kde? kwin with 3d? gnome mith metacity or compiz?

it's true that kde becomes slow on machines with less than 512 mb ram... but kde offers much more than the other DEs .. so a comparison is IMHO very difficult... ( btw. on sidux the whole system uses 250mb on a clean new installation - kubuntu 950mb) BUT you have to turn on so much services (like akonadi) to reach the kubuntu comfort zone and then the ram usage is quite the same...


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