I have started to experiment with KOffice, particularly KWord, on Kubuntu 9.10 beta (although I have difficulties using it because the text fonts look so awful, even on my 1680 x 1050...), and I think it has great potential. I would love to use it instead of OpenOffice. However, I use Zotero (www.zotero.org) extensively for my writing and it only has plugins (to enable me to cite references and construct a bibliography) for OpenOffice and Word. I encourage the KWord team to give some thought to a plugin. Zotero is a tool that is becoming increasingly popular, and a plugin would bring new users to KWord. I have made a similar request on the Zotero Forum (http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/942 ... for-kword/).

Thanks for the great work, Martin

Hey, thanks for the kind words

Personally I'd love to have a Zotero plugin for KOffice. Would likely not be too hard to create and I definitely see the advantages. Two open projects would strengthen each other.

The core team does have a pretty big TODO list so I hope someone else steps up and gets this plugin going so it happens this century

Cheers!

Many thanks - It's very good to read this! On the Zotero Forum bdarcus pointed me to http://community.muohio.edu/blogs/darcusb/archives/2009/03/01/the-babel-of-citations, where I think you have also commented.

Personally I would love to have a Bibus plugin. Can Kword receive from pipes like OO does?

I never got the grasp of Zotero and want something more traditionally endnote-like. And further, I have (finally) ditched firefox for chromium, on my opensuse 11.2 KDE. If I could also ditch OOo for Koffice I would be a very happy camper indeed... The only showstoppers being MS office 2007 compatibility (which I understand Nokia will bring), ability to save in a format for those still locked in in the MS cage (which apparently will come), and a decent reference manager.

If anyone knows of a KDE-based project with similar functionality to Bibus I am all ears

I am unable to answer your question but I will comment that I had the same problem with Zotero initially - but once I understand how it works (if one has used Endnote or something similar one has to break out of that mindset) it really grew on me. It is also improving all the time (see http://www.zotero.org/blog/building-a-s ... o-project/).

BTW, if you put the bookmark zotero://fullscreen/ in your browser (and hide the left hand pane of Zotero if you wish) it makes it look more like standalone software.

Is there some sort of tutorial which covers plugin-writing for KWord?

Most of the documentation is either in the code (API docs) or on techbase. I suppose these would be the most relevant pages:

http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tut ... e_Overview
http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tut ... n_Creation
http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tut ... ake_Plugin

Kbib (http://users.tpg.com.au/thachly/kbib/) seems to be a very nice bibliography tool comparable with Bibus.

The problem is that it seems to still be KDE3 and it can not communicate with either OOo or Koffice (only Kwrite and Kile). If I figure out how I will [follow the tutorials about how to]/[using the tools to] port from Qt3 to Qt4 some time and hopefully the author of that application will accept the port... Communications to Koffice is something that seems more complicated though.

If this could get some nice integration with Koffice and perhaps a syncing option to a Zotero database that would be very cool.

EDIT: It was more difficult than I thought to migrate from Qt3 to Qt4, or it is just me that is incompetent in this... I will try some more. Kbib communicates to Lyx via pipes (lyxpipes.in) I do not know whether this could be further adapted to do what bibus does with pipes to insert references in OOo (I will play around a bit to see how it works). I have not looked into whether this can be implemented in Kwrite too.

With bibus2
https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibus- ... ic/1933953

The question of a zotero or stand-alone reference manager is up to the user. This is a very elegant solution I think. The "only" thing required is a plugin for the receiving word processor.