@zander --

Thank you for your answer, and the pointer to bugzilla.

I guess I don't quite understand the comment:

I agree we should have the close button available, which is trivial to do. The
problem with doing so is that the docker gets much wider and in several styles
I tried its basically not a toolbox anymore.

So I think we need to do something like having a replacement docker header for
this. Ideally combined with a way to hide the toolbox from the view-menu.

For 2.0 I don't think we can fix this.

Once I deleted all the dockers (except for the Kword), I was able to shrink the Kword docker down to some small size and to drag it around. I also discovered that I could pull it to the left side and drop it at which point it stayed very small. If I pulled it over to the right side, it would again occupy a much larger space. Is that what you mean by the "header"?

If I were 1/10th the programmer that I wish I were, I'd give a try at a solution, but my programming skills in most modern languages are horrible at best.

As long as there is some sort of work-around that saves some horizontal space (my laptop has a 4:3 display form) is better than none. I will continue to experiment with Koffice and see if OpenOffice can be replaced.

Thank you again.

I hate forums - mostly because of the people on them.

The three kinds of people I hate are the ones who:

1. Don't have a social life and are clueless about the subject matter and it's resolution - and they gaily chat pointlessly about it anyway - thus wasting time and space.

2. The people who say "OH I am not affected by this, so I can't see what your problem is".

3. Or the people who say "Oh you should be doing this" and "Oh you should be doing that" and they don't have a clue about what must be done.....

And they don't like bing told to shut their stupid faces, and to keep their **** to themselves.

You either have THE SOLUTION - or you keep your trap shut.

OK to the issue:


I use word 2000 and 2003. I have developed my own single menu bar for it, that has 3 states of zoom, activates the scanner and a whole bunch of necessary stuff - all from one flat, narrow, single layer, menu bar - - at the top of the screen.

I tend to produce documents that are 200 - 300 pages long.

I do not like any **** taking up my screen space.

Microsofts brilliant move of making "The Ribbon" as the standalone premium feature of a **** repackaged version of Office 2003 - without recourse to minimisation or the old style menu bar; was the absolutely stupidest move ever.

The Microsoft Ribbon took up 1/3 of my vertical working space, to keep options open that I did not want to see, or use, with no way to get rid of them.

Microsoft and their perpetual stupidity - that was the last straw.


The KWORD menu bar as is - that suits me.

"The Dockers"- they are not a bad way to work - but I only want to see them or use them, when I want too or when I need too.

Having the K-word "docker" stuck up permanently on screen, with no way to switch it off, this drives me insane.

What piece of code do I need to hack to get rid of it?

As a suggestion; "The bright idea of one switch turning on all the lights in the house at the one time - is only a bright idea IF your paying the electricity bills - as for me, I only need the light on, in the room that I am in".

Having "forced on you" features, depending upon their stupidity - can easily be enough of a deal breaker to dump the product.

Microsoft Office 07 - and the idiot ribbon menu bar; those disks now sit in a landfill.

Your dockers - they are a vertical equivalent of MS's idiot ribbon interface.

Since there is no OFF to the Kword docker - again - what piece of coding do I need to hack to remove it.?

Irate Shane: Please see viewtopic.php?f=96&t=88208&start=15#p168677 with regards to your conduct. It is not acceptable.