Hi,

Is there a way to hide or otherwise make less conspicuous the panels on the right?

Sorry, I meant this post for the KOffice forum.

It's not clear what you mean - I don't see anything other than a clean edit panel. Could you post a screenshot to pastebin or similar and add a link here?

Are you possibly referring to KWord?

bcooksley wrote:Are you possibly referring to KWord?

KWord, of course. I'm very sorry.

actually i had been confused and not relaxed to the way the panel appear and then reorganize it
there is many spaces and some things should be up not down such as when you use editing tool in default it will be down but actually i need it in middle or even in top so i can easily get it
those panels should not be so small and then so down

In KOffice the design choice has been made to aim for widescreens. This is why you find the majority of the panels on the right (but you noticed you can just move them anywhere, right?). I personally even completely kill the toolbars so there is nothing but a menubar at the top.

But I have to be honest and admit that these panels are a serious issue and the KOffice team is aware of what you are saying. The solution currently works for many people, though and we will keep our eyes open for better solutions.
What is needed is some research (you know, the non-coding kind) where a technical framework is designed that fits in with Qt to make this work nicer and smoother.

So the goal is to keep stuff on the right and make them all about the same width and as low as possible (so many will be able to fit).

zander wrote:In KOffice the design choice has been made to aim for widescreens.

I guess that the design choice has been made before the advent of netbooks and even lesser gadgets ...

I've been trying Koffice (Kword, particularly) lately, after a few years of not using it. That "docker" or whatever it is, can be kind of aggravating. Yes, it can be moved around. I killed all the "docker" options then shrank the kword "docker" to the smallest size it would allow and moved it to the left of the screen. It takes up less room on the left, whereas, if you drag it back to the right side, it will take up its default size -- yech!

The technical solution is to make it operate the same as the other "docker" tools and simply be a checkbox option. No check, it disappears; with a check it goes wherever the user wants it - top, bottom, left, right at whatever size the user wants. For now I'm exercising my choice to make it small and to the left!

I want to give KOffice 2.2 a try on making it my main Office suite. The files i opened until now look good enough for working with. What on first sight annoys me most is the sidebar. I think in my daily work, I wont need its functionality. So it is just taking a way screen space on a small screen. There seems to be no way of removing it. Is there any (may be hidden) trick to remove that?
Would be very helpful.

Markum

I'm not sure what you mean by "side bar".

Are you refering to the dockers?

As a default, there are a stack of "dockers" on the right (I'm running Kubuntu 10.04). Each one is sortof like a window, and has its own close button. Also there is a checklist under Settings-Dockers where you can switch the dockers on or off. Just un-check them.

BTW, I know that's not how the other office suites do it, with most of their buttons in their toolbars along the top, but I prefer having an icon pallette on the side because I use a wide-screen format monitor. When I'm using an office package, my excess screen real-estate tends to be on the sides, but I want the full height for the document.

Jon wrote:Are you refering to the dockers?

Yes I am. But there is kind of final dockers, which does not have a side bar and it seems like it can not be removed the normal way. It is possible to detach it or to make it closer (but unfortunately on opening a new document it grows big again). This seems to be that what you refer a checklist. It can be removed. It just steals screen space. I do not need any of those functions and it would be good to have a choice to remove them.

Markum

Oh, I see what you mean now. I never tried that because one of the reasons I prefer KOffice _is_ the docker UI.

I don't know how to remove the "final docker", but as a work-around you can grab it by the top bar, pull it out of the dock-space and make it a stand alone pallette, minimise its size and place it over the far-right portion of the menubar and the toolbar. It will stay there the next time you open/create a document. Still KWord will add the "Tool Options" docker each time, but you can easily close that.

It's just a work-around, but it will give you your screen space.

Llama wrote:

zander wrote:In KOffice the design choice has been made to aim for widescreens.

I guess that the design choice has been made before the advent of netbooks and even lesser gadgets ...

For me it depends only on the screen format, and even most netbooks are widescreen.

That said, I have pretty good vision.

@jglen490 I agree with you
And as so many things, if only someone did the work to fix the issue. I think there are a lot of more serious problems for me personally to focus on, but I certainly welcome anyone to give this a try!
Here is the task on bugzilla http://bugs.kde.org/187094