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Is it true koffice team is going to split for good?

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Is K office going away? I just got a Mac and was going to download KOffice or Open Office. I used K Office on Slackware for years and was hoping I could import those files to the Mac easier if I had KOffice rather than Open Office. but if it is disolving then I will just do Open Office, I guess. I don't know much about computers so I have to do stuff as easy as possible. Thanks for any info
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It's not certain what will happen to the KOffice name, but all but one of the developers are in on the Calligra Suite effort, which starts from the same codebase.
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Calligra is KOffice, they just changed the name. Besides that, and the fact that the person in charge of kword (now words, same app, different name) has changed, everything is the same. All the software is the same, only the name of the suite, name of most of the apps, and one maintainer has changed.


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Okay, if I understood correctly when the split was announced: the team was going to be split into two groups, one of which was going to be allowed to continue the Kword name. So if almost all of the developers went to the project now to be known as Calligra (and I think the name change wise, all things considered), is the Large Community of One going to be taking over the Koffice name? That's the kind of stuff that really bad jokes are made of.


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Please let the things settle down a bit, and final decisions to be made before saying/claiming anything like this:

> Calligra is KOffice, they just changed the name.

The thing that can be said, with respect to the users, is that thanks to a bunch of really cool people, there will always be at least one KDE office suite :) (even if they don't like the term 'office' ;) )


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2handband wrote:So if almost all of the developers went to the project now to be known as Calligra (and I think the name change wise, all things considered), is the Large Community of One going to be taking over the Koffice name? That's the kind of stuff that really bad jokes are made of.

I don't think either group is allowed to use the koffice name.


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ivan wrote:Please let the things settle down a bit, and final decisions to be made before saying/claiming anything like this:

> Calligra is KOffice, they just changed the name.


I think this is in line with the official announcement:

"The KDE community today announces the start of the Calligra Suite project, a continuation of the KOffice project."


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Mind the wording, it is like saying "MariaDB is MySQL, they just changed the name" which is definitely not the case, while "MariaDB is a continuation of MySQL project" is true.

So, until the dust settles down and we see what's exactly below it, all claims are potentially false, and even might be disruptive.


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ivan wrote:Mind the wording, it is like saying "MariaDB is MySQL, they just changed the name" which is definitely not the case, while "MariaDB is a continuation of MySQL project" is true.

So, until the dust settles down and we see what's exactly below it, all claims are potentially false, and even might be disruptive.


Good point Ivan. I will wait and see which version I switch to.
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You probably won't see much difference for a while, but the stated intention is that Calligra and KOffice (possibly under a different name?) will develop to suit different user groups.


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Actually Calligra is diverging quickly from what was released in KOffice 2.3, while it won't be a total change, there will be a lot of user noticeable differences in the next release.


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cyrille wrote:Actually Calligra is diverging quickly from what was released in KOffice 2.3, while it won't be a total change, there will be a lot of user noticeable differences in the next release.


What are the nature of the divergences? I admit to being a little concerned; I liked the direction Koffice was going in.


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To put it simply, almost all the existing developers moved to Calligra, while a much smaller subset moved to a second fork (Group A) with a currently undecided name. Group A wants to use the koffice name, while Calligra developers do not want them to. The issue is currently under arbitration by the KDE e.v.

As you probably know, Calligra has renamed all of their applications. With the possible exception of kword, Group A has agreed to do the same, but no announcement about the new names has been made.

Calligra has been making a lot of progress, adding a lot of features, and cleaning up the code base. It doesn't seem like the split has put a dent in their progress. They seem to be mostly continuing with the same path they have been following since 2.0 was released.

Group A has been very quiet, I don't know what they have been doing. The leader of Group A made a blog post with some general goals, but how those goals differ from the goals of the Calligra developers I do not know. The post also didn't really contain any information about what progress they have been making since the split, it was more about future goals.


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"With the possible exception of kword"

What possible exception? KWord is already renamed in Calligra. It's now called "Words".

Btw, I use Calligra for a weeks now from latest Git and I must say that it rocks already :) More than former KOffice (2.3 and earlier I mean, which I also loved) :)
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@Vistaus
I think TheBlackCat thought that Group A is Calligra and wanted to say that non-calligra group (the actual Group A) might not change the name of KWord...


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