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Thu May 23, 2013 3:30 pm
Hello! Congrats for this great software.

I've started using Skrooge and I was wondering... is there any kind of mobile device support?

I'm specifically looking into an Android app simply for tracking expenses when out of home, and then importing those operations.

If there aren't any projects... how would I go regarding doing something like this? how would I interface with Skrooge? I've seen something about krunner but I'd be grateful if someone could point me to some documentation to get started in order to, basically, add operations to Skrooge.
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Re: Mobile support

Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:54 am
Hi,
I am the main developer of Skrooge.
I am interesting too by a mobile application on Android but I don't have time and skill to do it.
I am ready to provide you what you want (API, dbus services, web services, ...) to be able to develop this application.
If you are interested, please contact me by email, my name is Stephane MANKOWSKI and my email is in the about of Skrooge.

Thank you for using Skrooge.


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Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:26 am
I'm only a user and unfortunately not a developer but I'd like to have Skrooge on my Android mobile too !
Stéphane, jjmontes has made contact with you finaly ?
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Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:38 am
SylvaiNN wrote:Stéphane, jjmontes has made contact with you finaly ?

Not yet :'(


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Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:43 am
I hope he will... !
Any way to contact him via the forum ?
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Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:32 am
If you are aware of his forum username, you could try sending a private message (which can be done through the User Control Panel).


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Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:19 pm
hello

i start to love Skrooge first time, before i was looking for finance home best..i shot love to skrooge.. but i wish to android with skrooge, this is base of ideal..

i'm try to thinking..

skrooge can does share to port tcp (ip) for LAN like as cups, synology.. this is bee possible? without to creare APP for android..but virtual port in url ip local (lan)
android app create new portal connect to skrooge like as view-html database direct computer user kde4 and kde5..

sorry me my english is not good amybe i'm bad to explain you..

i try write simple:
android app html5 to coonect to skrooge, android is Client skrooge
computer desktop installed kde4 or kde5, skrooge, add:,databases, accounting, moneys, categories, etc. this is Server skrooge

-when android client connect to wifi (ip), will update (sharing database,accounts,moneys,etc), show result same information to skrooge desktop, like as full information identical.
-when andorid client add new event or new moneys or new transactions will update to scrooke desktop under ip. this is tipical SHARING/UPDATE
-same if when skrooge desktop is changed from user: add or remove transaction, or new moneys, so will be update to android client but when adroind client will be connect to wifi for update/share ok?

this is good ideal? evoid to new code to APP android so big time to code..right?
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Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:14 pm
it coulds be access:user and password for share/update/synchronize ..?
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Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:06 pm
This is not so simple.
If I well understood, you would like a Skrooge acting as a server and a web application connected to this server.
To do that, we will have to:
1- Publish as web services all features you need. => Cost: High
2- Develop the web application with a local mode (when your application is not connected) => Cost: High
3- Implement a synchronization with merging of modification done locally and on the client => Cost: Medium

I have an other proposal:
1- Use an existing application on android doing what you need and able to export data in open format (whatever the format) => Cost: Very Low
Example: https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... roid&hl=fr
2- Implement a new import/export plugin for this format => Cost: Medium

Because I don't have android device, if you are interested by this proposal then I am ready to implement the import/export plugin if you provide me sample files of the application selected.

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Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:33 pm
oh now i'm understand...

there are different level: low, medium, high..uhm..
but what is different about app in android and web-html5?

i did tried gnucrash, is not full features with skrooge..

you can find what is best way: app android for skrooge or client web-html for skrooge? if you find the best way then you will can join SOC of google (summero of code)?
for base connect inside of skrooge.. this is little good..?

or you can open https://www.kickstarter.com for goal your project, why not?

for my the best way for skrooge:
skrooge will be server service, will be can install to synology, owncloud, to opensuse 13.2, opensuse 42.1, ubuntu server, server hosting provider..
this is good way for find investment .. you can will receive/find moneys for live for grow up code for skrooge..
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Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:40 pm
i-m not programmer and not developers, but i have good idea for help you the way..
but i need to know inside of skrooge.

skrooge,
what is use database: mysql or postsql, mariadb, sqlite...?
what is based library: QT, java, c++, ?
skrooge is connect to akonadi?
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Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:38 am
manuelmuzzurru wrote:i-m not programmer and not developers, but i have good idea for help you the way..
but i need to know inside of skrooge.

skrooge,
what is use database: mysql or postsql, mariadb, sqlite...?

sqlcipher = sqlite + encryption
manuelmuzzurru wrote:what is based library: QT, java, c++, ?

C++ / Qt5 / kf5
manuelmuzzurru wrote:skrooge is connect to akonadi?

No


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Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:51 am
manuelmuzzurru wrote:oh now i'm understand...

there are different level: low, medium, high..uhm..
but what is different about app in android and web-html5?

i did tried gnucrash, is not full features with skrooge..

Sure but do you really need all features of skrooge on a mobile application?
I don't think so.
manuelmuzzurru wrote:
you can find what is best way: app android for skrooge or client web-html for skrooge? if you find the best way then you will can join SOC of google (summero of code)?
for base connect inside of skrooge.. this is little good..?

or you can open https://www.kickstarter.com for goal your project, why not?

I am the main developer of Skrooge but I don't have mobile device.
So, I am not really interesting by this kind of application.
I am ready to help for developing one but not take all my free time for that.
So, first, I am looking for a person to drive this "mobile application" for skrooge not SOC or money !
manuelmuzzurru wrote:
for my the best way for skrooge:
skrooge will be server service, will be can install to synology, owncloud, to opensuse 13.2, opensuse 42.1, ubuntu server, server hosting provider..
this is good way for find investment .. you can will receive/find moneys for live for grow up code for skrooge..


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Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:37 pm
smankowski wrote:I am the main developer of Skrooge but I don't have mobile device.
So, I am not really interesting by this kind of application.
I am ready to help for developing one but not take all my free time for that.
So, first, I am looking for a person to drive this "mobile application" for skrooge not SOC or money !

..I think for "mobile application" is first true necessary? for me first true necessary is web service server, did you see example of "capital personal" or "mint"?
if...if....if skroge will starts to new history fir web service server so all company and home will can use it for "on your terms", this is be good sound..?
mobile application is good but after than service server..or first mobile application and after web service server..?

for "So, first, I am looking for a person to drive this "mobile application" for skrooge not SOC or money !"
you can open announce to facebook and tweet and g+..?

for skrooge to mobile application: not same GUI but same features, and update direct >> wifi >>switch router>>LAN>>PC>>OS>>KDE>>skrooge databate users>>account and password>>updated data. return >>KDE>>OS>>PC>>LAN>>WIFI>>skrooge mobile application..
not money? why did you said "Cost: High", Cost: Low, Cost: Medium"?

skrooge is not connect to akonadi: this is true GOOD, so future can freedom to server service web, or synchronizer to skrooge desktop

"but I don't have mobile device."
you can use virtual android SDK? or you install android x86 in virtualbox..?

what is best format large exchange data finance? XML, CSV, QIF?
(i mean best for future preserve/storage?)
because if i take a format for best so i will try other application mobile (gnucrash, other apps) maybe future skrooge for app mobile so i will import best all data features without loss data, do you understand me?
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Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:57 am
manuelmuzzurru wrote:
smankowski wrote:I am the main developer of Skrooge but I don't have mobile device.
So, I am not really interesting by this kind of application.
I am ready to help for developing one but not take all my free time for that.
So, first, I am looking for a person to drive this "mobile application" for skrooge not SOC or money !

..I think for "mobile application" is first true necessary? for me first true necessary is web service server, did you see example of "capital personal" or "mint"?
if...if....if skroge will starts to new history fir web service server so all company and home will can use it for "on your terms", this is be good sound..?
mobile application is good but after than service server..or first mobile application and after web service server..?

Hi,
Skrooge is based on one main concept: "Apply modifications without pop-up panel and undo them is not the expected ones".
Undo/Redo concept is not possible with web service because with web service we have multi clients.
So, if you are looking for Skrooge web services, then this is very complex to do. This is a completely new project, not just an adaptation.
manuelmuzzurru wrote:for "So, first, I am looking for a person to drive this "mobile application" for skrooge not SOC or money !"
you can open announce to facebook and tweet and g+..?

As I said, I have many requests for "Skrooge on mobile" but when I answer "Are you ready to help me?" the answer of the requester is "No time".
Moreover, I won't use this mobile version because I don't have this kind of device.
So, when I said "I am looking for a person to drive", you must understand "I am waiting for a person to drive".
manuelmuzzurru wrote:for skrooge to mobile application: not same GUI but same features, and update direct >> wifi >>switch router>>LAN>>PC>>OS>>KDE>>skrooge databate users>>account and password>>updated data. return >>KDE>>OS>>PC>>LAN>>WIFI>>skrooge mobile application..
not money? why did you said "Cost: High", Cost: Low, Cost: Medium"?

Just to say that the development will take lot of my free time.
I don't need money but I don't want to use all my free time for something I won't use.
manuelmuzzurru wrote:skrooge is not connect to akonadi: this is true GOOD, so future can freedom to server service web, or synchronizer to skrooge desktop

"but I don't have mobile device."
you can use virtual android SDK? or you install android x86 in virtualbox..?

Sure but at the end I won't use the application.
manuelmuzzurru wrote:what is best format large exchange data finance? XML, CSV, QIF?
(i mean best for future preserve/storage?)
because if i take a format for best so i will try other application mobile (gnucrash, other apps) maybe future skrooge for app mobile so i will import best all data features without loss data, do you understand me?

I don't know format not loosing data.


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