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Skrooge: Buggy UI

Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:17 am
Hello,

I've just tried out Skrooge 0.9 and the application seems to be really packed with interesting features but the buggy UI makes these features not really enjoyable for me:

* Translation (to German) are very incomplete (around 50% I guess). For me it would be more comfortable to have the entire application in English instead to switch all the time while reading. Yes, I know I could unset my locale before starting.

* Localization of dates is incorrect (or not done), e.g. 2001-05 used for German locale.

* UI painting is horribly slow. I click on Operations and first see the red, right part of the table, before it disappears the rest is rendered. It takes so long I can actually read words from the red part. The appears at various occasions.

* Column width seems to recalculated every time I access a pane. That makes the table being and shown and then the columns jump to their final positions.

* Unset LANG does not effect all translations (but some!). The dashboard still shows Bericht, instead of Report.

* I click the Bericht checkbox and the report is opened. The check box stays checked. Not exactly what I expect from a check box.

* The import seems to be unable to handle Umlauts (äöü). I imported from a ofx file

* Column width is fixed and can't be changed by the user.

* Sort order and sorted by column is not saved when changing a pane.

Has the project a bug tracker? I have found no link on the homepage (neither a link to a mailinglist) The KDE bugticker returns 2 hits when searching for skrooge.

These are problems I have discovered by using the app just for 10 minutes...

Is there some kind of problem with my compilation/system or is Skrooge really such buggy?

Florian
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Re: Skrooge: Buggy UI

Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:18 pm
Horus wrote:Hello,

Hi,
I am the main developer of skrooge.
Thank you for using it.
Horus wrote:I've just tried out Skrooge 0.9 and the application seems to be really packed with interesting features but the buggy UI makes these features not really enjoyable for me:

* Translation (to German) are very incomplete (around 50% I guess). For me it would be more comfortable to have the entire application in English instead to switch all the time while reading. Yes, I know I could unset my locale before starting.

The best solution is to use help/Switch Application Language.
Horus wrote:* Localization of dates is incorrect (or not done), e.g. 2001-05 used for German locale.

You are right. I will try to correct this.
Horus wrote:* UI painting is horribly slow. I click on Operations and first see the red, right part of the table, before it disappears the rest is rendered. It takes so long I can actually read words from the red part. The appears at various occasions.

This is strange. Skrooge has been tested on a netbook with good performance.
Could you tell me more about your computer ?
Horus wrote:* Column width seems to recalculated every time I access a pane. That makes the table being and shown and then the columns jump to their final positions.

By using the contextual menu on the header of the table you can switch on/off this automatic resize.
Horus wrote:* Unset LANG does not effect all translations (but some!). The dashboard still shows Bericht, instead of Report.

You have to use Help/Switch Application Language to select the language you want.
Horus wrote:* I click the Bericht checkbox and the report is opened. The check box stays checked. Not exactly what I expect from a check box.

I don't understand this point. Could you detail?
Horus wrote:* The import seems to be unable to handle Umlauts (äöü). I imported from a ofx file

OFX import is done by libOFX. Could you check if you have the same issue in KMyMOney?
Horus wrote:* Column width is fixed and can't be changed by the user.

Yes, it's possible. See contextual menu on the header of each table for that.
Horus wrote:
* Sort order and sorted by column is not saved when changing a pane.

Yes, it's possible. You just have to save the state of the page (see floppy disk icon on the tab of the page) or create a bookmark.
Horus wrote:
Has the project a bug tracker? I have found no link on the homepage (neither a link to a mailinglist) The KDE bugticker returns 2 hits when searching for skrooge.

Yes, we have a bug tracker.
The information is on our web site: http://skrooge.org/
The bug tracker is https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?form ... ct=skrooge
Horus wrote:These are problems I have discovered by using the app just for 10 minutes...

Is there some kind of problem with my compilation/system or is Skrooge really such buggy?

I didn't see real bugs here. You just don't know how to use the application yet. ;)
Horus wrote:Florian

Regards,
Stephane


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Re: Skrooge: Buggy UI

Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:08 am
Hey Stephane,

thanks for replying!

My System is a AMD Phenom X4 3,4GHz, 8GB RAM, AMD Radeon 5770 using fglrx. KDE 4.6.3 on Arch. I'm experiencing no UI perfomance issues otherwise. I'll be happy to provide any more information.

> By using the contextual menu on the header of the table you can switch on/off this automatic resize. <
I actually like that feature it's just that the slow repainting makes it ugly.

> Yes, it's possible. You just have to save the state of the page (see floppy disk icon on the tab of the page) or create a bookmark. <
Ok, that works this way. Though I wouldn't consider that a wise UI design choice. Most (all) applications I know just save the ordering and options like resize yes/no.

> OFX import is done by libOFX. Could you check if you have the same issue in KMyMOney? <
Yes, KMyMoney has the problems with Umlauts. Might be a problem with libOFX.

I've read somewhere that were will not be any HBCI/FinTS support with Skrooge. Is this information still valid?

Thanks!

Florian
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:54 pm
Hi,

You wrote:
Localization of dates is incorrect (or not done), e.g. 2001-05 used for German locale.

I checked again and I did not find the problem. Where do you have this issue ? In "Operation" page ?

Could you check that you have good settings in "systemsettings" ?


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Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:59 pm
Horus wrote:Hey Stephane,

thanks for replying!

My System is a AMD Phenom X4 3,4GHz, 8GB RAM, AMD Radeon 5770 using fglrx. KDE 4.6.3 on Arch. I'm experiencing no UI perfomance issues otherwise. I'll be happy to provide any more information.
I have the same kind of machine and I have very good performances.
Do you have the problem only in "Operation" page or in "Bank & Account" page too?
How many operation do you have in you document?
Horus wrote:> By using the contextual menu on the header of the table you can switch on/off this automatic resize. <
I actually like that feature it's just that the slow repainting makes it ugly.

> Yes, it's possible. You just have to save the state of the page (see floppy disk icon on the tab of the page) or create a bookmark. <
Ok, that works this way. Though I wouldn't consider that a wise UI design choice. Most (all) applications I know just save the ordering and options like resize yes/no.

> OFX import is done by libOFX. Could you check if you have the same issue in KMyMOney? <
Yes, KMyMoney has the problems with Umlauts. Might be a problem with libOFX.
Sure, this is a problem with libOFX.
Horus wrote:I've read somewhere that were will not be any HBCI/FinTS support with Skrooge. Is this information still valid?
Yes it is.
Horus wrote:Thanks!

Florian
Thank you.


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Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:21 pm
> Do you have the problem only in "Operation" page or in "Bank & Account" page too?
How many operation do you have in you document? <
I have it everywhere. Honestly I got no idea how to count the operations, but not more than 200.

>> I've read somewhere that were will not be any HBCI/FinTS support with Skrooge. Is this information still valid? <<
> Yes it is. <
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Re: Skrooge: Buggy UI

Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:02 am
Hi,

Just for your information, I drastically improved performance in the new BETA version 0.9.93.
See: http://skrooge.org/download


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