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Call For Testing - KControl for KDE 4

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That is because we have now moved to KDE Review, meaning we are hoping to be shipped alongside KDE 4.3.
New URL: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kd ... kcontrol4/


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bcooksley wrote:That is because we have now moved to KDE Review, meaning we are hoping to be shipped alongside KDE 4.3.
New URL: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kd ... kcontrol4/


Thank you. Built and installed. There are some icon duplications but the tree view is definitely a major improvement.

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Hans wrote:[*]I'm not sure what I think about the new tooltip. One thing is for certain though: I don't like that I have two tooltips at the moment.


I can't try out the new KControl myself, but seeing this picture, I wonder why the icons are so large? They are larger than, for example, the icons in the tree view settings dialog of Konqueror, thus resulting in a larger distance between two setting subgroups and wasting space.
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The size of the icons on the tooltips have been dramatically reduced in current SVN.

Screenshot: http://imagebin.org/45828


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I am sorry, I didn't expressed myself clearly. I meant not the icons in the tooltips but in the tree view, left to the title for the subgroup of settings. For example, on Hans' screenshot one can read the titles "Computer Administration", "Look & Feel", "Network & Connectivity". And the icons left to these titles are larger than in the tree-view of Konqueror's settings dialog, as can be seen in the following screenshot:

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Larger icons waste space, smaller icons allow for more subgroups accessible at once in the same amount of screen real estate. Therefore I would deem smaller icons preferable, not higher than the font of the text attached to them. At least there should be consistency among the tree-views of KControl and the Konqueror settings dialog.

That being said, there is another issue: I see that the non-tree-view (should I call it icon view?) was not changed. Celeste Lyn Paul wrote a blog post about System Settings and why the current design is bad, and a step back compared to KDE 3's (actually Kubuntu's) System Settings. And there are still no different icons for "Input Actions" and "Keyboard & Mouse".
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Unfortunately the drawing of the category lines is a KDE Libs bug, which affects Dolphin also. The icons for the two modules are also not under the control of System Settings, it simply respects the icon chosen the the module author.

I can't see much difference in icon sizes unfortunately, here is a screenshot of current svn tree view: http://imagebin.org/45827


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bcooksley wrote:The size of the icons on the tooltips have been dramatically reduced in current SVN.

Screenshot: http://imagebin.org/45828


From Imagebin:
Woops! That image may have been removed, remember Imagebin is for temparary image storage. Sorry.


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Seems like Imagebin doesn't hold onto them for very long...
Here is the screenshot again: http://i43.tinypic.com/2564al2.jpg


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How's the progress with KControl4? Will it be included in 4.3?


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Currently in kdereview, awaiting the completion of the 2 week review period.


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Just noticed two strange problems in Kcontrol (revision 959292, using KDE 4.2.2. and Qt 4.5.1, but may have been there earlier too). Someone else wondered why the icons are so large, and this may be partially the same issue - only that I only get a large icon for _some_ modules. Only two to be exact, and neither is shipped with KDE as default.

They look fine in the left-hand treeview, but not if they're displayed in the right-hand view. The sizes look very odd...

Look at these two screenshots to see the problem:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3364/347 ... 31b2_o.png
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3360/347 ... ed3d_o.png


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Thank you for reporting this Kryten2X4B.

The problem was that KIconLoader could not locate the desired size, so it grabbed the nearest one it could find. I have now fixed this by ensuring that too small / too large icons are scaled to fit, in revision 959300.


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bcooksley wrote:The problem was that KIconLoader could not locate the desired size, so it grabbed the nearest one it could find. I have now fixed this by ensuring that too small / too large icons are scaled to fit, in revision 959300.


Awesome! Looks a lot better! I'm not sure if this is related to the fix, but after updating to 959301 I only get a questionmark-icon for the font-installer. And I could have sworn I had another icon previously.


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Hmmm. I can't think of why that would happen. Does the normal icon display itself in System Settings?
Does it affect all places the icon is displayed in KControl4?
'kbuildsycoca4' should find the icon again.


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bcooksley wrote:Hmmm. I can't think of why that would happen. Does the normal icon display itself in System Settings?
Does it affect all places the icon is displayed in KControl4?
'kbuildsycoca4' should find the icon again.


Let's see...it looks like it should in systemsettings yes.
And it doesn't affect all places in KControl4 either. It looks like it should when kcontrol
is configured for icon-view. In tree-view, it looks like it should in the treeview but NOT in the righthand panel.

That's the only icon this happens for btw, and using kbuildsycoca4 does not help. I get the same behavior both before and after (and with reboots in between as well).


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