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leap 15-1 kde 5.55 - Konsole as root without password failed

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Konsole as root without password failed to open without any error.

That was working for years as soon as you have set up /etc/sudoers to enable users in group wheel and you have set up user's kdesurc file.
The command used to use from the application launcher is
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kdesu -c 'konsole --profile Root_WHEEL'


Any help is welcome urgently.
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I wonder why you need to run the Konsole GUI as root rather than just su-ing to root inside of (launched-as-current-user) Konsole?


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airdrik wrote:I wonder why you need to run the Konsole GUI as root rather than just su-ing to root inside of (launched-as-current-user) Konsole?

Thank you for answering.
But I am sorry that does not answer my question.
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Perhaps I should have framed it differently as I was suggesting an alternative which I believe should work for you, but framed it as a question (which you avoided answering) to see if you had a valid reason why you needed it to work the way that you describe rather than using any of a number of other valid workflows.

So I'll re-frame that as a more direct suggestion: Instead of running the Konsole Gui as root, you set up a konsole profile which starts a root shell.
I don't see any benefit from running the Konsole Gui as root when all you really care about is a convenient way to open a Konsole session and run commands as root.


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airdrik wrote:Perhaps I should have framed it differently as I was suggesting an alternative which I believe should work for you, but framed it as a question (which you avoided answering) to see if you had a valid reason why you needed it to work the way that you describe rather than using any of a number of other valid workflows.

So I'll re-frame that as a more direct suggestion: Instead of running the Konsole Gui as root, you set up a konsole profile which starts a root shell.
I don't see any benefit from running the Konsole Gui as root when all you really care about is a convenient way to open a Konsole session and run commands as root.

Thank you for answering.
But I am sorry that does not answer my question which was :
Konsole as root without password failed to open without any error.
That was working for years as soon as you have set up /etc/sudoers to enable users in group wheel and you have set up user's kdesurc file.

And there is two important parts in my question :
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Konsole as root [color=#FF0040]without password[/color]

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[color=#FF0040]That was working for years[/color]
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Why do you care so much about running Konsole as root? I'm offering an alternative that you are immediately dismissing without considering that it may be a worthwhile approach to what you want (besides being more secure as there are less bits running with elevated permissions)

When you try to run Konsole as root, what is the error that pops up? Is it merely that it prompts for a password? If that is the case it most likely has nothing to do with Konsole and only with differences in the sudo settings between the old and new systems.

Are there other applications you run as root in similar manner? do they still work as they did before and/or as you intend Konsole to work?


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airdrik wrote:When you try to run Konsole as root, what is the error that pops up?

Application does not open. No popup error.

airdrik wrote:Is it merely that it prompts for a password?

Of course not. That is the purpose of /etc/sudoers to give root access to user belonging to group wheel (and the presence of ~/.config/kdesurc for each user in the wheel group).

airdrik wrote:If that is the case it most likely has nothing to do with Konsole and only with differences in the sudo settings between the old and new systems.

Surely something like that.

airdrik wrote:Are there other applications you run as root in similar manner?

Yes and not
Yes --> yast2 (gui) ; dolphin (gui) ; ......
and not : The calling process is different
yast2 use : /usr/bin/xdg-su -c /sbin/yast2
Dolphin use : dbus-launch dolphin -qwindowtitle "%c" "%u"

airdrik wrote:do they still work as they did before and/or as you intend Konsole to work?

yes but the calling process is different.

Calling konsole with sudo works within a running konsole.
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sudo konsole

open a konsole as root without asking for password.

What does not work is calling konsole with a specific profile, from the kickoff menu
here is the command definition in the kickoff menu :
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konsole --profile "WHEEL_ROOT_SHELL"

Here is the definition of the profile
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[Appearance]
ColorScheme=Black_On_Dark_Yellow
Font=Hack,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0,Regular

[General]
Command=DISPLAY=":0" /usr/bin/sudo bash
Icon=RootTerminal.png
Name=WHEEL_ROOT_SHELL
Parent=FALLBACK/

[Scrolling]
HistoryMode=2

[Terminal Features]
BlinkingCursorEnabled=true

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Command=DISPLAY=":0" /usr/bin/sudo bash

or
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Command=/usr/bin/sudo bash

Make no difference
Note 2:
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Command=DISPLAY=":0" /usr/bin/sudo su

or
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Command=/usr/bin/sudo su

Make no difference.
Note 3 :
Leap 15 is opensuse, they configure sudo differently as others.

Thank you for helping.
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Does it make a difference if you use the -i flag which runs a login shell for that user:
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sudo -i

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sudo -i bash


(setting/overriding the DISPLAY variable should be avoided as that is tying the command to a specific graphical display session. Not a big deal in a single-user, single-session system, though)


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