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Massive issues with "stable" version

kazi
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KDE Neon needs to be massively overhauled in its current form. I figured I would try it out using the recommended distribution (Ubuntu 15.10). There are a number of show stopping bugs here that absolutely need to be fixed. Reinstalling Ubuntu 15.10 so I can undo the damage that the KDE install did when I get home today. Anyhow, here's a short list of the worst ones (note that I was using the "stable" version):

The KDE Neon install conflicts with existing packages (in this case, it conflicts with icons from Krita). The only fix in this case is to force the installation with dpkg --force-all.

Speaking of installing, I had to manually install Konsole, Gwenview, and Dolphin. You shouldn't have to do that.

KDE changes the bootloader away from grub WITHOUT ASKING. Why? Why did someone think this was a good idea?

After booting, my login screen is now a blank black screen with nothing on it whatsoever. I suspect this is somewhat related to me wanting to keep lightdm as my default, but this shouldn't happen under any circumstance. My only fix here is to blindly type my password and *hope* it logs me in. Logging out and logging in again somehow miraculously makes the login screen appear again.

baloo_file_extractor eats 100% of a CPU all the time. I usually end up sigkilling it as soon as I log in so that KDE actually becomes responsive.

It is impossible to get rid of the bouncy cursor on starting a program. The solutions to this I googled no longer seem to work (the options have disappeared) in the latest version of Plasma.

Attempting to add an apt repository (in this case yannubuntu/boot-repair so I could get rid of the KDE bootloader and reset my default to grub), ends in the following error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/add-apt-repository", line 95, in <module>
sp = SoftwareProperties(options=options)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 109, in __init__
self.reload_sourceslist()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 599, in reload_sourceslist
self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 89, in get_sources
(self.id, self.codename))
aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a distribution template for neon/wily
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Hi kazi,

I think there might be a kind of misunderstanding.

"stable" != stable

At the moment there is only a developer branch/repository of KDE neon. In the last week it was updated with the latest stable version of Plasma desktop (5.6).
KDE neon itself isn't stable or ready for primary use at the moment.
From several announcements we know, that the stable version of KDE neon will come after ubuntu 16.04 was released. Unfortunately there are now detailed time lines.

Beside this, I'm very interested in the bootloader issue. What was replaced by what? I think this might be related to some testings for UEFI compatibility.
You will find more information in the wiki.

will;
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Thanks for your feedback. As has been said it's not stable stable, it's devedition-gitstable (I renamed the images to this slightly clunky name to prevent the issue) which is built from branches but still there for testing and reviewing.

kazi wrote:The KDE Neon install conflicts with existing packages (in this case, it conflicts with icons from Krita). The only fix in this case is to force the installation with dpkg --force-all.

Bug in the way Oxygen icons is handled, I've fixed this now in KDE frameworks, which is exactly the sort of issue Neon devedition is intended to help with.

kazi wrote:Speaking of installing, I had to manually install Konsole, Gwenview, and Dolphin. You shouldn't have to do that.

We don't have applications in Neon yet, we're still setting up the infrastructure, they will come in future weeks.
kazi wrote:KDE changes the bootloader away from grub WITHOUT ASKING. Why? Why did someone think this was a good idea?

It uses the breeze grub theme, just the sort of thing that Neon is good for testing. Nothing else is changed.

kazi wrote:After booting, my login screen is now a blank black screen with nothing on it whatsoever. I suspect this is somewhat related to me wanting to keep lightdm as my default, but this shouldn't happen under any circumstance. My only fix here is to blindly type my password and *hope* it logs me in. Logging out and logging in again somehow miraculously makes the login screen appear again.

No idea what's up here, sounds like a bug in lightdm.

kazi wrote:baloo_file_extractor eats 100% of a CPU all the time. I usually end up sigkilling it as soon as I log in so that KDE actually becomes responsive.

Sounds like a bug in baloo.
kazi wrote:It is impossible to get rid of the bouncy cursor on starting a program. The solutions to this I googled no longer seem to work (the options have disappeared) in the latest version of Plasma.

lucky you, I don't get the bouncy cursor and I miss it
kazi wrote:Attempting to add an apt repository (in this case yannubuntu/boot-repair so I could get rid of the KDE bootloader and reset my default to grub), ends in the following error:

I've fixed this too
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Hello, would we able to choose which software to install (including services, such as Baloo, etc.) in future releases of Neon? I believe this would make it so much easier to have a customised OS, and eliminate the tedious task of uninstalling programs and modules afterwards.

 
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