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Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:00 pm
alideda wrote:I do not understand what you've upgraded, Neon? Kubuntu? Upgraded to git stable version? If you've upgraded to a stable version of git you could have installed it safely with .iso image


The upgrade is moving the core OS from Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS: The kernel, driver stack, and overall software repositories outside of Plasma/Qt, and irrespective of User, git-stable, and git-unstable branches.


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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:10 pm
I've tried upgrade to 18.04 on your links. The process itself went without falling but the result was disastrous. Neon is a meta-pack and now it has a bionic resume at sources.list.d. I can not add ppa repositories, the programs I added earlier did not work.

And finally, I got a bad developer version that I could download and install. If I had done so, I would have a correct developer version that works.
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$ lsb_release -a
LSB Version:    core-9.20170808ubuntu1-noarch:security-9.20170808ubuntu1-noarch
Distributor ID: neon
Description:    KDE neon Developer Edition
Release:        18.04
Codename:       bionic


sources.list.d neon.list is thet correct
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deb [arch=amd64] http://archive.neon.kde.org/user/ bionic main
deb-src [arch=amd64] http://archive.neon.kde.org/user/ bionic main
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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:26 am
As far as I can see from the proper distribution, I got Frankstead distribution. The instructions that are to be used are for testing by the system, try and throw. I'm a fool that I believe in writing that everything works.
I am thinking that the user of Arch or Manjara felt that AUR and localization did not work for him or the user of the Gentoo distro to not do his layman and localization. That's exactly what they received from these superficial tips for upgrading to 18.04
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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:32 pm
alideda wrote:I've tried upgrade to 18.04 on your links. The process itself went without falling but the result was disastrous. Neon is a meta-pack and now it has a bionic resume at sources.list.d. I can not add ppa repositories, the programs I added earlier did not work.
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Everything works fine with all ppa since weeks. You must edit the file "/etc/lsb-release"
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-DISTRIB_ID=neon
+DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=18.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=bionic
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="KDE neon Developer Edition"
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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:58 pm
Thanks for the advice, now for adding ppa. I've put the localization in en-usa and put my language as the second. For now everything works but now this is not Neon this is Ubuntu.. ;D
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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:29 am
Followed the instructions at https://community.kde.org/Neon/BionicUpgrades.
Upgrade to Bionic went swimmingly on my small laptop.. Had to re-install the Bionic builds of virtualbox and radiotray-ng but both remembered all the settings. No gotcha's after a couple of days.
Interestingly, my tower is completely ignoring the edit to "/etc/update-manager/meta-release". Go figure. I'll do a clean install on the tower when the updated iso is released anyway.
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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:46 am
Update worked for me. But I can't turn my PPAs and other software sources back on. When I try the sources tab in Discover>Settings, it is ghosted out and says "NULL." And when I try typing in the console: "sudo software-properties-kde" I get the following error, so I am kind of stuck for now. Any ideas how I should set it?

QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/software-properties-kde", line 144, in <module>
app = SoftwarePropertiesKDE(datadir=data_dir, options=options, file=afile, attachWinID=attachWinID)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/kde/SoftwarePropertiesKDE.py", line 62, in __init__
SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 128, in __init__
self.reload_sourceslist()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 623, in reload_sourceslist
self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 93, in get_sources
(self.id, self.codename))
aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a distribution template for neon/bionic
Error in sys.excepthook:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/apport_python_hook.py", line 145, in apport_excepthook
os.O_WRONLY | os.O_CREAT | os.O_EXCL, 0o640), 'wb') as f:
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/crash/_usr_bin_software-properties-kde.0.crash'

Original exception was:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/software-properties-kde", line 144, in <module>
app = SoftwarePropertiesKDE(datadir=data_dir, options=options, file=afile, attachWinID=attachWinID)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/kde/SoftwarePropertiesKDE.py", line 62, in __init__
SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 128, in __init__
self.reload_sourceslist()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 623, in reload_sourceslist
self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 93, in get_sources
(self.id, self.codename))
aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a distribution template for neon/bionic
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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:34 am
OK, I read that I needed to edit /etc/lsb-release so that gets me my software-properties-kde. But then software-properties-kde tells me that:
"Your local copy of the software catalog is out of date.
A new copy will be downloaded."

But this fails with:
"Refresh failed.
Could not download packages"

and in the terminal it says:
"Home directory not accessible: Permission denied"

Executing sudo, is it looking for my home directory, or for root? Does root even have a home directory?
This seems to lead back to that "QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'" error again.
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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:52 am
cjmiller wrote:Update worked for me. But I can't turn my PPAs and other software sources back on. When I try the sources tab in Discover>Settings, it is ghosted out and says "NULL." And when I try typing in the console: "sudo software-properties-kde" I get the following error, so I am kind of stuck for now. Any ideas how I should set it?


Update /usr/share/python-apt/templates/neon.info for bionic
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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:35 am
acheronuk wrote:
Update /usr/share/python-apt/templates/neon.info for bionic


What to do in this file, how many I've seen there is a lot of Ubuntu distributions written. Should it be necessary to replace xenial with bionics or to make an identical structure but to write bionic

Very interesting when looking at the setup, everything is Ubuntu and this unofficial version of 18.04 and in the official version with the base 16.04. Neon as the carrier of distribution is put as meta-packing and like all programs that are added from ppa. This unofficial version does not work well if it does not break into Ubuntu and the localization is not resolved.
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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:58 pm
AFAIK Neon wil not be updated to 18.04 until those involved are happy that it is fully complete.

See this link from Riddell https://jriddell.org/2018/07/26/kde-neon-bionic-update/
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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:05 pm
alideda wrote:
acheronuk wrote:
Update /usr/share/python-apt/templates/neon.info for bionic


What to do in this file, how many I've seen there is a lot of Ubuntu distributions written. Should it be necessary to replace xenial with bionics or to make an identical structure but to write bionic


https://packaging.neon.kde.org/neon/set ... 0dd41fe88d
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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:05 pm
acheronuk wrote:
alideda wrote:
acheronuk wrote:
Update /usr/share/python-apt/templates/neon.info for bionic


What to do in this file, how many I've seen there is a lot of Ubuntu distributions written. Should it be necessary to replace xenial with bionics or to make an identical structure but to write bionic


https://packaging.neon.kde.org/neon/set ... 0dd41fe88d


Thanks for the answer but I have another dilemma. Where to put these definitions in neon.info because at the very beginning there is a group of definitions called devel and then follows xeinal group definitions. Do you delete the devel group and put it from the link or add after the devel group. There is an Ubuntu.info file that also starts with the devel group and there is all that is on the link that is given as an example. If after changes to neon.info I can go back to lsb-release neon instead of ubuntu because now the distribution is called Ubuntu in the grub menu.
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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:08 pm
jmacleod wrote:AFAIK Neon wil not be updated to 18.04 until those involved are happy that it is fully complete.

See this link from Riddell https://jriddell.org/2018/07/26/kde-neon-bionic-update/


Yes I know, but now I got into that and at least I have a usable distro until the final version is released.
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Re: Kde Neon upgrade to 18.04

Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:11 pm
jmacleod wrote:AFAIK Neon wil not be updated to 18.04 until those involved are happy that it is fully complete.

See this link from Riddell https://jriddell.org/2018/07/26/kde-neon-bionic-update/



Neon not releasing until they are completely happy with the product is great news. A rushed and buggy product would be undesirable.


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