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[KWin] Desktop grid improvement

Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:28 pm
This is mostly based on my memories of Compiz Fusion, but there are also some additions that are plasma related.

Now desktop grid AFAIK only shows the snap shot of all desktops.
But I would like it to be more interactive.
In desktop grid you should be able to interact with windows on desktop.
Like moving them from one to another or opening a new window on another desktop...

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RE: Desktop grid improvement

Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:46 pm
You can already move windows (however, maximized windows don't work for me) - simply drag and drop.

What do you mean with "In desktop grid you should be able to interact with windows on desktop."? Do you want them to behave as "normal", e.g. you can click on the close button to close windows etc.?

And how do you propose that one would open a new window while the effect is active?


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RE: Desktop grid improvement

Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:56 pm
Hans wrote:You can already move windows (however, maximized windows don't work for me) - simply drag and drop.

What do you mean with "In desktop grid you should be able to interact with windows on desktop."? Do you want them to behave as "normal", e.g. you can click on the close button to close windows etc.?

And how do you propose that one would open a new window while the effect is active?

I had a extended idea but decided to post only the basic idea.
So here it is the extended:
First yes I want windows to behave in desktop grid just as a normal windows, not only that you could move them around (even maximized) but let's say you have an Open Office opened you would be able to write in it and save and anything else.

For opening new windows I would like to see that this effect would only present activities/desktops but not panel. Panel would still be just like it is normally and you would be able to interact with it normally.
So you would only click on Kick-off or any other menu and start a new app.
I think this would give this effect a real meaning of desktop grid. A grid where you can organize your windows.
This would give the tiling windows feel. So I hope.


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RE: Desktop grid improvement

Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:00 pm
Oh and another thing while moving windows they should always look "whole" not unlike now when you lose half of your window while moving.
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RE: Desktop grid improvement

Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:55 am
I disagree with that.

I find that uneasy to use and not very intuitive.

But it would be nice if we could close windows in fact (with a right click on them for example). But use it as if we wasn't using the desktop grid... well, the result would be almost unusable.
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Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:42 pm
plaristote wrote:I disagree with that.

I find that uneasy to use and not very intuitive.

But it would be nice if we could close windows in fact (with a right click on them for example). But use it as if we wasn't using the desktop grid... well, the result would be almost unusable.


I dont see such important reason to allow user to close a window when using grid effect. You can now move window by dragging it or set it to all desktops by right clicking or middle clicking it.

The move effect what hides the window behind other desktops where that window is not active, is very important. KWin used the Compiz-Fusion style what was that window fluid to other desktops when going "over" the desktop edge. That was not nice. No you can have better virtualisation of desktops because they ain't such way connected to each other.
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RE: Desktop grid improvement

Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:14 am
i think this idea could still use a little more clarification.

upon seeing "grid", as an xmonad user and subscriber to the xmonad mailing list, first thing i thought of was the grid layout it uses... it might actually be what you're looking for.... that is, if you were so keen on the idea, or otherwise impressed with xmonad as to warrant using it.


i also have fond memories of using mettisse's grid (guessing up same street as compiz) desktop navigator tool. such a blessing and joy.

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Desktop grid improvement

Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:56 am
You an interact with windows now.


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