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Let's make Amarok looks better!

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Mazur
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Hello KDE Community, I am quite new here and I am coming with idea. It is not my idea but I think it could be great to see something like that in Amarok ;-)! This topic was created to persuade Amarok developers about Look and Feel. Here are some mockups created by users from Kde-look.Org

This one was created by user menace1982, Downloads: 2361 and more than 7 pages of comments!
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/A+ ... tent=94472

The second one was created by the same lover of Amarok, menace1982.
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Am ... tent=93854

Third mockup was created by Luis Augusto, I find it on the KdePlanet, it looks great too.
http://introducingkde4.blogspot.com/200 ... ockup.html

I think this is enough to show that current look of Amarok is not perfect, I know that some people will kill me for this but it is true. My idea is to make Amarok more 'configurable'. I think look should be changed by plasmoids and all things in amarok should be a plasmoids so it could be easy to transform it! Currently I am using Gnome and ArchLinux but I would like to switch to Kde with 4.3 release, another reason for posting it is that I can't look at my Gnome, another 2.26 release and nothing's changed.
My dad is loving kde from 3.4 release and everytime when I am asking him about Linux he is repeating that he is waiting for Amarok and 'better' Kde. Dear Developers and Community, you did great work for making 4 branch looks like that, it is great move but Kde is still not perfect. I am sorry for my english and hope to see many votes for + :).

Thank You, Mazur!

Last edited by sayakb on Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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If you have a look at the blog posts and mailing list discussions of the amarok developers, you will see that they are aware of the fact that amarok isn't pretty enough yet. They are honest about it, working on it (among many other things) and are, I think, generally on a good track. The playlist is a great example for this trend. They created a new playlist from scratch, asking users to give them time to re-add features we have come to love. With 2.1 (coming soon), they will be there. Not thanks to those users who kept complaining and abusing the developers, but despite them.

Let's show some confidence in the devs and not keep shouting about how it isn't good enough. We're getting there. Quite obviously.

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With all the respect to the developers, they are doing great, but the best -ever- music library manager is MediaMonkey
Amarok is great for playing music, but for maintaining huge music libraries, well, MediaMonkey is doing much better, simply because it displays more information in user friendly way (foobar does pretty the same, but MM has something to me love it).
the most important difference for me is too big spacing between columns. Just my opinion

p.s. media monkey (still not perfect) is only one of a few apps i miss from m$ windowz :(
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#mutlu
Thanks, I didn't know about it =).

#Lukas
I tried MM when I was running Windows but for me Amarok works better, I don't know why but for me it is best music player =).
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Well again Bespin has a solution for this:

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mutlu wrote:If you have a look at the blog posts and mailing list discussions of the amarok developers, you will see that they are aware of the fact that amarok isn't pretty enough yet. They are honest about it, working on it (among many other things) and are, I think, generally on a good track. The playlist is a great example for this trend. They created a new playlist from scratch, asking users to give them time to re-add features we have come to love. With 2.1 (coming soon), they will be there. Not thanks to those users who kept complaining and abusing the developers, but despite them.

Let's show some confidence in the devs and not keep shouting about how it isn't good enough. We're getting there. Quite obviously.


I see that as a suggestion, not as a claim. The first idea - integrate video and audio players - is the best in my opinion. I know the developers are working, but I think is valid to give them ideas.

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WOW! Great style! Amarok would be very nice with a skin like that.


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Mazur wrote: I think this is enough to show that current look of Amarok is not perfect, I know that some people will kill me for this but it is true. My idea is to make Amarok more 'configurable'. I think look should be changed by plasmoids and all things in amarok should be a plasmoids so it could be easy to transform it! Currently I am using Gnome and ArchLinux but I would like to switch to Kde with 4.3 release, another reason for posting it is that I can't look at my Gnome, another 2.26 release and nothing's changed.



The look of amarok is already improving it's looks. Amarok has a new plasma theme and the collection browser has been prettied up. The devs are already working on more dynamic plasmoids which should solve your worries. Look at the latest screenshot for some proof.
[img=200x119]http://amarok.kde.org/blog/uploads/cdcollection2.png[/img]

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Okay. Actually it looks better then my Amarok. :)

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A lot of the trouble with mockups (as expressed by some Amarok devs) is that to implement those (or any graphical suggestion) the artist him/herself would have to continue communication with the developers: according to what the Amarok developers wrote in the past, they've had a number of people dropping out instead.


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Amarok problem isn't the artists. Amarok is a usability insult, a complete mess with no signs of logic, that's amarok problem, the interface is the worst thing ever thought, period.


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The interface design in Amarok2 is heading more to fancy then to usable. The screenshoots in the first post are really awesome, Amarok2 would be nice and usable again, like in the 1.4.x versions.

Last edited by akoskm on Thu May 07, 2009 9:53 am, edited 1 time in total.


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It would be nice if you provided specific suggestions on how to improve Amarok rather than just calling it "a complete mess" or "more fancy then usable". That is the reason this forum exists in the first place.


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As I mentioned above: "The screenshoots in the first post". Here is the specific suggestion: lets-make-amarok-looks-better-t-39526.html#pid57176 still in the first post.




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