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Interface and fonts of non-KDE apps is ugly. So please make gnome apps to look good in KDE.

System Settings > Appearance > GTK styles and fonts doesn't help at all.

It should help, except for synaptic and other applications started with administrator privileges. Those use the root theme, which doesn't carry over a reboot.

They look great for me.
Using the GTK option in system settings.
kdemod stable - Archlinux.

rouge568 wrote:It should help, except for synaptic and other applications started with administrator privileges.

However, such a popular application as firefox and geany (development tool) look bad.
Options "Use my KDE style in GTK applications" and "Use another style - Qt" make menu items of GTK applications to be drawn with black font on dark-blue background.
With option "Use another style - Raleign" menu items drawn correctly but entire interface becomes ugly with rough edges.
In geany font in some dialogs remain different despite my settings in Settings > Appearance > Fonts

Well, all non-KDE applications look like I described. KDE ones - look perfect.

P.S. I'm using KDE 3, so I don't know how things are in KDE 4

What i meant in my rather useless post is :
Isn't that more bound to packaging issues rather than bugs or missing features ?
Since it works better in some distros than other, i guess this is at least part of the problem.

I would say that it's not a new feature requests,, but rather an improvement of stuff like the gtk-qt engine. Did I get it right?

Install the Firefox-Oxygen-Theme. With the right GTK-Configuration it will look great.

I usually have both KDE and most parts of GNOME installed. Having it both makes solving this problem quite easy.

GNOME settings including themes are controlled by /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon which is started in each Gnome session. So we can solve it like this:

1) Make gnome-settings-daemon start at KDE startup (ln -s /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon ~/.kde4.2/Autostart)
2) Select a good theme, proper fonts etc. with gnome-appearance-properties
3) Log out and back in

If additionally I select GTK+ KDE style, all KDE and GTk apps share the same look, albeit a GTK look (I don't quite like Oxygen anyway)

This has worked for me in KDE 3.5 and 4, but with one KDE 4.2.1 installation I've had some issues: sometimes what I saw upon logging in was just black screen with a mouse cursor. So sometimes I need to Alt-Ctrl-Backspace and log in once more. No fix or cause for this found yet, but I believe it is connected with gnome-settings-daemon being started at KDE startup.

Another way of solving this includes manual editing of gtkrc files and (I believe) some env-vars tweaking, but if you have gnome-control-center and gnome-settings-daemon installed anyway, it's easier just to follow the above steps.

sudo apt-get install kde-style-qtcurve-kdeconfig

System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK Styles -> Use another style: QTCurve

To me, the biggest problem is the gnome open and save dialogs. They are awful, and stick out like a sore thumb.

What could KDE-Developers do, when GTK+ has an ugly file-choser?

jtsop wrote:sudo apt-get install kde-style-qtcurve-kdeconfig

Konsole says:

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E: Couldn't find package kde-style-qtcurve-kdeconfig

KronoZ wrote:They look great for me.
Using the GTK option in system settings.
kdemod stable - Archlinux.

Really where. I'm still unable to find this option in KDEmod.
But I do use as little Gtk apps as possible. More or less I need only Firefox which can be made more or less good with KDE4 theme.
Only annoyance is that the window-deco doesn't look the same with Bespin.
I think that isn't repaired even with Gtk-apps look in system settings 8AFAIK from Kubuntu).
I don't even have this section in my KDEmod. I have no idea why.
(Have to ask on Chakra forum)

The User wrote:What could KDE-Developers do, when GTK+ has an ugly file-choser?

One word Kgtk ...
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36077
See how nice Firefox can look with it :
http://imagebin.ca/view/CDOemy47.html

Both kgtk and gtk-qt-engine should get some serious love and probably even become a default part of kde ....


Using kgtk and gtk-qt-engines I'm almost happy (almost because it not always works, and often has glitches bugs) ... In firefox and thunderbird you can even use the OK / Cancel buttons instead of the gnomes Cancel/OK if you modify userchrome.css and add those lines :
.dialog-button-box { -moz-box-direction: reverse; -moz-box-pack: right; }
.dialog-button-box spacer { display: none !important; }

Oh and btw I have to use kgtk even for native Qt4 apps since those (smplayer, avidemux) don't use kde file picker but the default Qt one ... It is really strange that Qt4 apps now right integrate better with GNOME (with QtGTKStyle) then with Qt...

rouge568 wrote:It should help, except for synaptic and other applications started with administrator privileges. Those use the root theme, which doesn't carry over a reboot.

You can force Synaptic to use gtk-qt-engine style if u issue this command in a temrinal:
sudo mv ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 /root/.gtkrc-2

as long as it's optional, and preferably not default.

i vlaue the different appearance so i know i'm using a gnome app (or other). it's a funtional value, not mere aesthetic.