In konqueror with khtml in some sites the fonts are ugly. This happens only with english letters, in greek is always normaly.

Example:

http://www.framablog.org/index.php/post ... ve-staline







I use konqueror with khtml and is not konfortable to switch every time, so i'd like to ask if there is any setting that i could do to fix this

The site you suggest is French and a quick look at the source suggest that the font may be determined by the noviny stylesheets they are using. AFAIK noviny is a Slavic word. As it looks exactly the same in chromium, I don't think the font has anything to do with Konqueror or khtml.

another example is here http://www.insomnia.gr/forum/38-linux/ it is in greek but you can see the english letters ar as the example above

I think you need to install Microsoft Fonts, i had this problem, although on Arch.

i installed them but it did nt give me results. They are still the same.

Dimitrios wrote:another example is here http://www.insomnia.gr/forum/38-linux/ it is in greek but you can see the english letters ar as the example above

Not on my screen - the English fonts are completely different from the ones in the earlier example and match the Greek fonts very well.

I suspect the problem is the system fonts you have available.

i have installed all (not all, the most common) the font packages of my distribution (mageia) and the mscorefonts from an external tarball. I did nt resolve the issue yet

i have installed the following fonts without resolve the problem:

A.D. MONO
Adventure
Andale Mono
Arial
Arial Black
Babelfish
Bitstream Charter
Bitstream Vera Sans
Bitstream Vera Sans Mono
Bitstream Vera Serif
Blue Highway
Blue Highway Condensed
Century Schoolbook L
Charter
Comic Sans MS
Courier
Courier 10 Pitch
Courier New
Cursor
cursor.pcf
DejaVu Sans
DejaVu Sans Mono
DejaVu Serif
Dingbats
DirtyBaker'sDozen
Droid Sans
Droid Sans Mono
Droid Serif
Fixed
FreeMono
FreeSans
FreeSerif
Fudd
Georgia
Helvetica
Hershey-Gothic-English
Hershey-Gothic-German
Hershey-Gothic-Italian
Hershey-Plain-Duplex
Hershey-Plain-Duplex-Italic
Hershey-Plain-Tripplex
Hershey-Plain-Tripplex-Italic
Hershey-Script-Complex
Hershey-Script-Simplex
Impact
Kerkis
KerkisCalligraphic
KerkisSans
KerkisSansSmallCaps
KerkisSemiBold
KerkisSmallCaps
Larabiefont
Liberation Mono
Liberation Sans
Liberation Sans Narrow
Liberation Serif
Lucida
LucidaBright
LucidaTypewriter
New Century Schoolbook
Nimbus Mono
Nimbus Roman No9
Nimbus Sans L
Nimbus Sans L Condensed
OpenSymbol
Standard Symbols L
Terminal
Times
Times New Roman
Trebuchet MS
URW Bookman L
URW Chancery L
URW Gothic L
URW Pallado L
Utopia
Verdana
Webdings


is there any other font that i have to install ?

Have you tried removing the fontconfig cache (~/.fontconfig) and fontconfig configuration (~/.fonts.conf)?

it did nt help. It changed a little bit the aspect (better) but we can see the difference between the English and Greek characters.
I will try in the side of mageia to see if there is an issue from the installation of the distribution

I installed the tahoma fonts too, i have better results know:




Still in this site the English and Greek characters are very different:
http://www.insomnia.gr/forum/38-linux/

Eureka !

i disabled the fonts Lucida and i have the desired result

john_hudson wrote:The site you suggest is French and a quick look at the source suggest that the font may be determined by the noviny stylesheets they are using.

The "noviny" stylesheet was at
http://www.framablog.org/themes/noviny/style.css

and the decisive CSS rule affecting font-family was

line 63: font: 62.5% "Lucida Sans","Lucida Sans Unicode","Lucida Grande",Lucida,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;

AFAIK noviny is a Slavic word. As it looks exactly the same in chromium, I don't think the font has anything to do with Konqueror or khtml.

If Dimitrios had the Lucida font installed (and this is what he is saying), then the Lucida should have loaded. So, there may be a problem with Konqueror if the Lucida font was not loaded.

There is at least 1 other problem with Dimitrios post.

His cursive (set to Liberation Sans) font and fantasay (set to Liberation Sans) font are wrong IMO. I have respectively set cursive to
URW Chancery L and fantasy to Purisa. You may want to visit

Cursive font sampler and survey results
and
Fantasy font sampler and survey results

There are 2 bug reports which may be related to this post:

Bug 53484: using only specified fonts

regards, Gérard

GTalbot wrote:
If Dimitrios had the Lucida font installed (and this is what he is saying), then the Lucida should have loaded. So, there may be a problem with Konqueror if the Lucida font was not loaded.

Yes i have the Lucida font installed, and it seems that is well loaded because when i disabled it i had another font rendered in its place.

Disabling Lucida it fixes the fonts aspect not only in konqueror but in firefox too. Another user who uses Firefox has a similar problem and after proposing him to disable Lucida, he told that finaly this was the solution for his problem: http://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=el&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=el&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mageia-gr.org%2Fforum%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D17%26t%3D16

There is at least 1 other problem with Dimitrios post.

His cursive (set to Liberation Sans) font and fantasay (set to Liberation Sans) font are wrong IMO. I have respectively set cursive to
URW Chancery L and fantasy to Purisa. You may want to visit

Cursive font sampler and survey results
and
Fantasy font sampler and survey results

There are 2 bug reports which may be related to this post:

Bug 53484: using only specified fonts

regards, Gérard

To be honest i did nt know what the cursive and fantasy are for , thanks for the links.

Dimitrios wrote:

GTalbot wrote:
If Dimitrios had the Lucida font installed (and this is what he is saying), then the Lucida should have loaded. So, there may be a problem with Konqueror if the Lucida font was not loaded.

Yes i have the Lucida font installed, and it seems that is well loaded because when i disabled it i had another font rendered in its place.

Disabling Lucida it fixes the fonts aspect not only in konqueror but in firefox too.

Regarding the Lucida Sans Unicode font (and this may apply possibly Lucida font too), I know that this was originally one of the first font capable of rendering many (thousands) Unicode glyphs. But then, when applied to several languages, it was missing many glyphs and often missing diacritical glyphs. New versions of Lucida Sans Unicode were better but still incomplete. I have read reports that Lucida Sans Unicode was broken for Hebrew and for cyrillic alphabet.

The font that may have the best unicode support is not Lucida Sans Unicode but Code2000 (53,068 characters; 63,546 glyphs).

Gérard