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melvinjose86
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Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:18 am
Can we work on a tool like nokia ovi suite which can be used not only with nokia phone but based on platforms like android/meego, symbian, windows phone etc... .

Great if we can have all the platforms integrated into one like the way pidgin/kopete do to IM chats.

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I would suggest we work with java on this. Adding a few suggestion below.

1. The package can be a jar file.

2. Operable on any platform irrespective of unix/windows/mac.

3. Most phones support java. Any issues with phone OS can be resolved using some tune up java app the Desktop app could install and run on the phone.

4. The desktop app could sync all content on the phone like music, videos, contacts, messages etc.

5. It could also have functionality to update the phone software from the vendor site.

6. Also suggest amarok or preferably kaffein plugin that can access the phones' media, sync it and play on the desktop.

7. The destop utility could support text messages and internet(thru network manager) over the phone on the PC while the phone is connected to the PC.

8. Could explore the scope of phone manufacturers' contribution towards the project.

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Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:28 pm
What exactly will this application be doing?

If it's for synchronisation, every single phone has its own set of battles to contend with - and nowadays with a lot of phones synchronising data to the cloud (eg. Android with Google Services) the need for a traditional iTunes-esque desktop manager is no longer required.


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Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:44 pm
Agree with you moult. We are talking about cloud being implemented. But when is it going to be in a mass scale.

If that time has come, then its too late we are holding on to our computers even. All we would need a device that has a web browser and we should be good.

And as for synchronizing apps from phone manufacturers,how many of them run on linux. Thanks to windows dominance on PC. Lets also consider users of the developing countries like mine where wireless internet is not everybody's cup of tea. May be yes, but our cups are too small.
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Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:49 pm
Approving this idea. I fully empathise with the complete lack of usable internet and realise the need for a desktop solution.

There have already been a few brainstorm ideas about specific syncing as Akonadi resources for PIM syncing. That should be the hard part. File syncing should be relatively easy. Perhaps they can be merged with this one.


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Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:06 am
It can also support uploading and downloading or syncing to a cloud if the phone OS or the manufaturer does provide such a facility.
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Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:47 pm
It could be a very handy tool for syncing contacts, calendar, movies, music etc. Sending/receiving smses would be a godsend (with integration to the desktop notifications)


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Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:24 am
Hi developers,

I'm not a programmer, I mean not good at C and Qt which is far by way used by KDE. I do a little bit of web programs using Java. I would like to know if this idea is going to be very extensive? I'm trying to brush up my knowledge of C and got no idea of Qt. Can I be of some good with the development.

And most important who works on implementing these ideas?
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Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:14 pm
How is this different than something like syncml?


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Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:36 pm
melvinjose86 wrote:And most important who works on implementing these ideas?


Anyone who wants to.

I'm not a programmer, I mean not good at C and Qt which is far by way used by KDE. I do a little bit of web programs using Java. I would like to know if this idea is going to be very extensive? I'm trying to brush up my knowledge of C and got no idea of Qt. Can I be of some good with the development.


Just for your information. most KDE software are coded in C@kb_sc@kb_sc (and the same goes for Qt).


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Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:22 pm
I had no idea of SyncML. Thanks for that question I just read about it. I think this is much the same, but I would like to put it into practice. My personal experience is that I'm not able to sync my phones with my PC using a single application. Nokia needs a PC Suite, Samsung needs a samsung studio, Sony Ericsson needs its own Suite. And moreover, none of them works on linux. The only linux solution available is gnoki which has never met its purpose.
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Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:26 pm
While I see the need to sync pc to phone information without third parties, I think no other apps should be implemented. Most modern phones accept syncml or GroupDAV protocols to sync PIM information through IP connections. This is nice for owncloud use case but in a PC-Phone scheme you only have syncml over bluetooth. Creating a Nokia Suite style app would be a hassle as you have to deal with proprietary protocols both over bluetooth and USB.
From my point of view, a nice approach would be to create an owncloud like interface announced on local network using zeroconf and akonadi as backends, including as well the corresponding options on system preferences.
Create helper app for each mobile platform to help in adjusting sync parameters for each mobile, detecting PCs on local network, syncing files, etc.
This way synchronization would be integrated in KDE desktop for PCs, tablets, etc. just needing a working wifi (or even seting up ad-hoc networks automatically).
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:49 am
aitorpazoz has some very practical view on the idea. Thanks a lot. However I was thinking of KDE taking this idea at a corporate level - taking the help of each phone manufacturer when it comes to using proprietary protocols and developing a part of the application that corresponds to their build.

It may work because that can help reduce the investment on their part in developing and managing an app which is surely not their main aspect of business provided this app be professionally managed and supported and also considering the fact that the app we are discussing is platform independent.

I'm not sure how practical this would be. Experts please comment.


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